How effective is Proviron as an aromatase blocker?

[vados]

I know that it gets me pretty hard and ripped after a while using it, I also know (this is all from experience) it got me rid of starting gyno symptoms (enlarged and sore nipples), but how does it fare compared to a-dex or femara? Never used those, they are damn expensive in my country. (150 $ for a box of 30 tabs 2.5 mg Femara).

 

[DirkMoneyshot]

Arimidex, Femara, Aromasin are in a class by themselves compared to Proviron.

 

[Vegas]

Arimidex, Femara, Aromasin are in a class by themselves compared to Proviron.

I agree. Proviron should be enough for most individuals to keep estrogen-related side effects in control, but in terms of potency the aromatase inhibitors are far more effective.

 

[Stone]

Mg-Mg, adex, and letro are hundreds of times more potent as AI's. Proviron has added benefits as well, libido increases, lowering SHBG, hardening up the physique, which make it apealling to many users. But if you are using more than 500-750mg test per week or are prone to gyno/aromatization then IMO the stonger AI's (letro, adex, aromasin) are the only choice. As for price... the first few times I bought and used adex, it was from mexico in brand name form and it was VERY expensive (about what you listed). However, with research company prices, it is now cheaper than proviron. If you can't get the research companies to send to your country, there is always the option of having a powder supplier ship a small amount out to you. 1 gram will be about what you pay now for 30 pills and it will last you forever.

 

[vados]

Thanks, actually I was thinking of ordering the liquid letro from researchology. Anyone tried it, good to go?

 

[day65]

Proviron users -- be prepared! When i took this i could of swore i was taking viagra.

 

[vados]

Nothing like good prop though .

 

[Trevdog]

Not one study supports the notion that proviron works as an aromatase inhibitor AT ALL.

 

[vados]

Who would do a study on bodybuilders trying to use it for that purpose anyway?
We all know in practice that it works, nuff said.

 

[Stone]

How do you know, have you had blood tests? If not, you could simply be confusing the extra hardness it brings as less estrogen...

 

[Trevdog]

Who would do a study on bodybuilders trying to use it for that purpose anyway?
We all know in practice that it works, nuff said.

There is NO STUDY showing this effect on bodybuilders or anyone else. I'm very comfortable saying that there would be such a study if it did in fact work, and it is fair to conclude based on the lack of such study that it does NOT in fact work.

There are plenty of reasons to determine whether any given substance acts as an aromatase inhibitor, especially one that is believed (incorrectly) by so many people to act as such. For example, Schering certainly would have a great deal to gain if they could show that proviron suppresses estrogen. If they could, they would. They can't, so they won't. You can't either, and if you advise anyone that using proviron will protect them from the potentially harmful effects of excess estrogen, maybe you should be prepared to pay for the breast reduction surgery.

We absolutely DO NOT know that it works. It does lots of cool things, but to assume that it can be depended on to deal with estrogen is foolish at best.

Nuff said.

 

[vados]

There are a few things ill add though:

As i said in the first post, the use of proviron got me rid of starting gyno symptoms (swollen and itchy nipples).
When human grade masteron was available, it was sometimes prescribed to treat gyno, and proviron is structurally almost identical to masteron.
Dont know maybe this is due to androgen/estrogen ratio shifting in favor of the former, but bottom line is that it does SOMETHING anti-estrogenic.

 

[Trevdog]

Maybe it does but you're speculating. There is a big difference between coorelation and causation. Show me a definitive causal link between taking proviron and concrete anti estrogenic effects. You can't and the lack of any empirical evidence of such a causal link is telling.

I can't prove that proviron didn't do something to your nipples. On the other hand, it is fairly easy to prove that arimidex and aromasin work as advertised.

But hey, we all make our own decisons for good reasons or bad. Plenty of people ask questions hoping to get a certain answer supporting a course of action they have decided to take. If they don't get the answer they want, they'll take the action anyway. I'm not saying you're going to do this, it appears that you aren't, but my point is people shouldn't rely on proviron as an anti estrogen just because a persistent but unsupported myth holds that it is effective and they'd really like it if that myth were true.

 

[Mudge]

SHBG is the only reason I'd ever use proviron, and I never have (yet?).

 

[BigRonWannabee]

SHBG is the only reason I'd ever use proviron, and I never have (yet?).

Thats the only reason I do use it. I can feel the kick within a day or so. Id never rely on proviron for my anti-estrogen needs.