How far can you get with test only cycles (maybe with some dbol)

[Dave1]

People always add other things into their cycles after around 1 or 2 like deca or eq. Is this because you can only make gains from test cycles for so long till they halt? Lets say in your first cycle you do 500mg test enth. then in your second you do 600mg with 20mg dbol (dbol everyday). Then on your third you done like 700mg with 35mg dbol.

Would the gains still be good on test and dbol cycles as long as you increase the amount slightly each time or do you have to stack more steroids after a certain number? Thanks

 

[3J]

its really gonna be predicated on your diet..

iv put 30lbs on with test only before.. but i know how to eat

 

[Dave1]

its really gonna be predicated on your diet..

iv put 30lbs on with test only before.. but i know how to eat

Is the general idea though that you should get some more steroids in there as well after couple of test cycles?

Yea I'm reading stickies now to get more nutrition knowledge. I'm reading a "how to bulk" thread. How much of that 30 did you keep?

 

[3J]

about 20lbs

 

[juced_porkchop]

you can to only that rest of yoru life and NOT your DONT need to rise doses every cycle.
what matters is your workouts and diet.

 

[3J]

your wayyy too worried about numbers my friend..

iv done multiple cycles and have never gone over 600mg test a week

 

[Teutonic]

Their right bro...500 test some deca and dbol is allll I ever did. I was younger, lived it, ate like a viking and trained like a berserker...

 

[Dave1]

Realized it's more about training and nurition. Steroids just make the gains come much quicker but without those 2 you'll get nowhere. Could I get away with doing all my 3 or 4 cycles with just test and dbol then? I aim to gain a ton of muscle in my cycles (got to be prepared for them so you make the best of them) from hard work on training and nutrition.

How many cycles you done Teutonic?

 

[Dave1]

about 20lbs

Do you think you could gain the same amount on more test cycles as long as nutrition and training were worked on just as hard if not harder? If so I see no need to add deca, eq etc or even maybe dbol to my cycles.

 

[5x10]

the longer you go without, the more responsive you will be to it

 

[Dave1]

the longer you go without, the more responsive you will be to it

you mean if i wait to use deca, eq etc then it would be more responsive or the longer i wait to use test?

I'd love it if you could get big of just test and not have to add other things.

 

[5x10]

you mean if i wait to use deca, eq etc then it would be more responsive or the longer i wait to use test?

I'd love it if you could get big of just test and not have to add other things.

no, meaning if you do 2 cycles a year, you will respond less to the certain doses, than if you took a year or two in between cycles

you develop a tolerance to roids, just like all other drugs

test is overrated imo, i have gotten a ton better results stacking low dosed test(200mgs) with dbol, deca, or tren(at aprox 200mgs) when compared to 400mgs of test bu itself

 

[Dave1]

no, meaning if you do 2 cycles a year, you will respond less to the certain doses, than if you took a year or two in between cycles

you develop a tolerance to roids, just like all other drugs

test is overrated imo, i have gotten a ton better results stacking low dosed test(200mgs) with dbol, deca, or tren(at aprox 200mgs) when compared to 400mgs of test bu itself

Say I done 4 cycles. I'd probably do the first test only, second and thrid test with dbol and the fourth (if I even needed it) I'd consider deca but if you can make good gains with just test and dbol I'd prefer just that.

Maybe it would be more effective to do 3 cycles in a year then wait 2 and do 2 more cycles identical to the first 2/3 i done 3 years earlier

 

[5x10]

Say I done 4 cycles. I'd probably do the first test only, second and thrid test with dbol and the fourth (if I even needed it) I'd consider deca but if you can make good gains with just test and dbol I'd prefer just that.

Maybe it would be more effective to do 3 cycles in a year then wait 2 and do 2 more cycles identical to the first 2/3 i done 3 years earlier

it all depends on your goals
my goal is to get on, have fun for 10-12 weeks, then get off and recovered asap

many people turn this drug into a lifestyle and its easy to fall into this

if your goal is to get as massive as possible, and you understand how to diet to gain mass, then it would be best served never to get off(cruise and blast)

 

[Dave1]

it all depends on your goals
my goal is to get on, have fun for 10-12 weeks, then get off and recovered asap

many people turn this drug into a lifestyle and its easy to fall into this

if your goal is to get as massive as possible, and you understand how to diet to gain mass, then it would be best served never to get off(cruise and blast)

My goal isn't to be as massive as possible. My goal is just to be really big. Not as big as a pro bodybuilder but someone like zyzz in this pic

http://www.zyzzbrah.info/zyzz.jpg

but a decnt bit bigger. I'm hoping that if I dedicate everything I do in life to training and nutrition while on cycle and off cycle that I can get this in 3 cycles of

test
test,dbol
test,dbol

Think it's possible?

 

[Liquid 2010]

You can get pretty far!

 

[5x10]

My goal isn't to be as massive as possible. My goal is just to be really big. Not as big as a pro bodybuilder but someone like zyzz in this pic

http://www.zyzzbrah.info/zyzz.jpg

but a decnt bit bigger. I'm hoping that if I dedicate everything I do in life to training and nutrition while on cycle and off cycle that I can get this in 3 cycles of

test
test,dbol
test,dbol

Think it's possible?

lol, zyzz

your a troll

 

[Dave1]

lol, zyzz

your a troll

I don't like him but his physique isn't bad. That was off the top of my head though. Zyzz has small legs/back so I'd want them bigger. I dunno lets go with the rock instead seen as everyone hates zyzz lol:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bLMuE-tur...AACGw/7FYQE3gFrJ4/s1600/The+Rock+%2863%29.jpg

Achievable in the 3 cycles if I dedicate everything I do to training and nutrition?

 

[Dave1]

I imagine you'd seriously damage yourself if you done "cruise and blast" lol. How would you recover

 

[3J]

I imagine you'd seriously damage yourself if you done "cruise and blast" lol. How would you recover

well theres a chance you can recover.. but it slims out the longer you cruise and blast...


its a risk people take consciously