How to Cycle Safely by Observing Blood Counts

[MickeyKnox]

I just stumbled onto this thread and i have to say it's very well written, well researched, and informative...perhaps even "outstanding".

Good job.

 

[Rida5d]

Yeah great job .. As always..
I wish I had the chance to read such threads when I started.. Hell I'm 37 and done lots of mistakes that could be avoided if I came into such articles when I started..
Youngsters (over 24) are more lucky than me.. It's good to have you on board Aus.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Austin, What panels do you recommend to get for pre, mid and post cycle? with and w/o orals.

 

[Austinite]

Austin, What panels do you recommend to get for pre, mid and post cycle? with and w/o orals.

1. Testosterone, Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle)

 

[5x10]

Sorry, should have re-read before asking. Thankfully I have none of those symptoms except perhaps headache, but I've always been prone to those. I'm not a smoker, age 49, 6', 180lbs. No sleep apnea. Will see what they say at the blood center when I attempt to donate. Since I have a prescription I was planning on being up front about medications, or is that a mistake?

Somewhat tangential, ignore the question if you like, but can you explain why raising hCT a few points with EPO turns a middle-of-the-pack cyclist into a superman, but raising hCT via AAS does nothing for us?

Lastly, on the risk of syncope during self-phlebotomy, would it help to incorporate some kind of valve that needs to be held open so that loss of consciousness would stop the flow?

It does do something for you
More rbcs means the ability to transport more oxygen, nutrients, remove lactic acid, etc
Basically more stamina,,that's why endurance racers blood dope

 

[Austinite]

It does do something for you
More rbcs means the ability to transport more oxygen, nutrients, remove lactic acid, etc
Basically more stamina,,that's why endurance racers blood dope

If you're in the lower range to begin with, it can be useful without being dangerous. When you're already in the upper range, it's counter productive. Who cares if your endurance is up when you're at risk of DVT and a host of other issues. The problem with websites for endurance racers is that they rarely go into detail. So everyone jumps on the train blindly.

 

[5x10]

If you're in the lower range to begin with, it can be useful without being dangerous. When you're already in the upper range, it's counter productive. Who cares if your endurance is up when you're at risk of DVT and a host of other issues. The problem with websites for endurance racers is that they rarely go into detail. So everyone jumps on the train blindly.

I was just saying that there is a performance benefit of this side effect
Logically, you would think a person would be in the normal range pre cycle, and in an elevated range during a cycle
I'm not saying do a cycle for increased blood thickness

 

[Austinite]

I was just saying that there is a performance benefit of this side effect
Logically, you would think a person would be in the normal range pre cycle, and in an elevated range during a cycle
I'm not saying do a cycle for increased blood thickness

I agree.

 

[Austinite]

Draining 4th pint today. 1st was about 6 weeks ago and still can't prevent hematocrit from climbing fast. Doing a urinalysis tomorrow to see if I'm dehydrated, which I doubt considering how much water I drink. Either that or my sleep apnea has gotten really bad.

 

[BIGISLANDBIGFOOT]

You are a Gold mine of info. Im just gonna read evey thread u got. Thank U for sharing.

 

[DreDay187]

Draining 4th pint today. 1st was about 6 weeks ago and still can't prevent hematocrit from climbing fast. Doing a urinalysis tomorrow to see if I'm dehydrated, which I doubt considering how much water I drink. Either that or my sleep apnea has gotten really bad.

You're still only on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and deca? That's crazy! Sleep apnea has effects on HCT?

 

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[Austinite]

You're still only on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and deca? That's crazy! Sleep apnea has effects on HCT?

Yes, Sleep apnea certainly does. Oxygen deprivation. I was just dehydrated however. I think you know why

 

[Austinite]

Original post updated/fixed.

 

[TheDrGreenThumb]

Great post..Does anybody know where you can buy the blood bags that they use to collect blood...I'd like to be able to do this myself in a pinch.
thanks