Hows my 2nd cycle look?

[Loydchristmas]

My first cycle was 250mg omnadren every 4days for 10 weeks, with 50mg Winstrol (winny) ED at the end.

Im 5'10 205lbs, been training for 5 years.

My idea for my 2nd cycle is
test enanthate 500mg wk 1-10
eq 450mg wk 1-10
dbol 20mg wk 1-3
winny 50mg wk 9-12

I know that Winstrol (winny) and dbol shouldnt be ran together but i want to see how i react to dbol. I figure if i am taking ala, and some tylers liver detox i should be ok. Plus im only going to run them each for 3 weeks with a 6 week break between them.

How does this cycle look?
Do i need to run the eq longer?

Thanks.

 

[fatchops]

My first cycle was 250mg omnadren every 4days for 10 weeks, with 50mg Winstrol (winny) ED at the end.

Im 5'10 205lbs, been training for 5 years.

My idea for my 2nd cycle is
test enanthate 500mg wk 1-10
eq 450mg wk 1-10
dbol 20mg wk 1-3
winny 50mg wk 9-12

I know that Winstrol (winny) and dbol shouldnt be ran together but i want to see how i react to dbol. I figure if i am taking ala, and some tylers liver detox i should be ok. Plus im only going to run them each for 3 weeks with a 6 week break between them.

How does this cycle look?
Do i need to run the eq longer?
Thanks.

Well this being your second cycle only I think that is too much gear bro.
I assume this is a bulker? I would say go with

Test/eq or Test/dbol
people will tell you to run the EQ for 12 weeks at least and that is true, the longer you run EQ the better, so in that in mind if you decide on running test/eq run it together for 12 weeks.
If not then run the test/dbol cycle and bump the dbol up to 30-40mg/ed.

 

[Harvey]

I know that Winstrol (winny) and dbol shouldnt be ran together but i want to see how i react to dbol.

I agree with fatchops on this one.

 

[Loydchristmas]

My goal on this cycle is to lose bodyat and gain strength. I've heard you can cut on any steroids.

I am an amatuer boxer so i think the eq is a good idea to have for endurance. Test/eq or should i try test/tren enanthate?

Also if i do the test/eq would it be too much to throw in Winstrol (winny) at the end?

 

[trendkill]

stick with the test/eq it'll be good for some lean mass,

 

[fatchops]

My goal on this cycle is to lose bodyat and gain strength. I've heard you can cut on any steroids.

I am an amatuer boxer so i think the eq is a good idea to have for endurance. Test/eq or should i try test/tren enanthate?

Also if i do the test/eq would it be too much to throw in Winstrol (winny) at the end?

Well I know some boxers that take Winstrol (winny) all the time, but they are pro level boxers I don't know your situation.

Well if your really want to use the Winstrol (winny) then you can throw it in there but that means you will be running this cycle for 14 weeks and for your second time around I think you should go with test/eq for 12 weeks bro. Remember don't try to make all your goals on one cycle. you said you want to loose bf and gain strength well when I ran eq I didn't get too strong it only made me hungry. I would tell you this, run either test/eq or test/dbol bro. Dbol will give you some awsome strength gains. Let me know what you think alright bro.

 

[Loydchristmas]

Well, my first cycle was a good cycle. I accomplished almost everything i wanted to. The only thing was, it didnt give me much strength. I wanted to do one pretty strong cycle, instead of the 2 i planned on getting done before memorial day weekend.

I think the best idea is to run a 10 week test/eq cycyle. With the Winstrol (winny) at the end.

I will also be running liquidex at .50mg eod.

 

[Billy_Bathgate]

Id drop the Winstrol (winny). Terrible terrible joint pain in my experience. The last thing I would have wanted to do was box....

I think the rest looks fine though as is...

If you want to see more strength gains on this cycle, train more towards gaining strength

 

[magnusson187]

IMO it looks good for a second cycle, If Winstrol (winny) doesn't cause to much joint pain being a boxer I would run it for more than 3 weeks, more like 5-6.

If your taking ala and tylers you'll be fine,I feel the possiblity of liver damage while consuming 17aa's are extremely overemphasized. My body responds better to resonable doses over a longer period of time. Give your body time to adjust to the added mass and strength so you dont lose it all after the cycle.

I've got blood test during every cycle and the only time I've ever had elevated ast/alt levels was while I was taking Orals plus Accutane along with Ibuprofin daily and alcohol frequently unfortunately

Good luck

 

[Powerhouse9]

thats alot for a 2nd cycle. I would run the dbol another 2 weeks, and get rid of the winny.

 

[Loydchristmas]

Im getting rid of the eq. Im a little worried about the anxiety issues.

I going to run test at 500mg wk 1-10
dbol for the first 4 weeks at 30mg

Does that look good? Anything i should add?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Im getting rid of the eq. Im a little worried about the anxiety issues.

I going to run test at 500mg wk 1-10
dbol for the first 4 weeks at 30mg

Does that look good? Anything i should add?

Looks much better !!

 

[DADAWG]

Im getting rid of the eq. Im a little worried about the anxiety issues.

I going to run test at 500mg wk 1-10
dbol for the first 4 weeks at 30mg

Does that look good? Anything i should add?

test dbol is a solid cycle , you should be pleased with the results if you train/eat/sleep properly

 

[fatchops]

Does anyone listen to me....I guess not he he.

That looks a lot better bro Test/dbol will give you some awsome strength gains. Good luck

 

[TOOLifter]

I'm listining, FC- I like the way you think.

You are one of the only bros I PERSONALLY know that has taken his time with cycles and not jumped into too much too fast. (because someone has helped you out alot ? Two drugs for lloyd x mas at this point is a good idea. In regards to strength, dbol/test is the way to go- you can certainly cut on any drug- it is simply there to keep strength up and reduce catabolism while on a calorie restricted diet. Winstrol (winny) for a boxer would be brutal- judging by my experiences. Magnussen- doesn't EQ have some of the water retaining properties in joints/connective tissue that deca does? It seems conflicting, I guess. Just thought that EQ/winny would be OK to go with (perhaps as a third cycle in a ddition to some test.)

TL