I tried HRT levels of testosterone but in post cycle therapy (pct) after ending a long cycle I tried this chinese herbal called Tongkat Ali... at first I tested with still low but better then should be testosterone level as I had my labs done right at height of the post cycle crash but now as I have been on just Tongkat Ali for 5 weeks straight, I am actually getting the sense that my testosterone levels are thru the roof. I am getting night sweats, I am gaining muscle mass and weight just like I did early in my steroid cycle, I have actually a more pronounced agressiveness then I did on 500 mg a week of teststerone enanthate, my ears are popping frequently, the horniness is absolutely thru the roof - more horniness then I had on 500 mg a week teststerone in the middle of my steroid cycle only this time my balls are big and healthy as opposed to shrivelling up like raisins as they did when on steroid cycle.
I think there are several things that happen. According to University of Japan health studies of Tongkat Ali, the majority of patients had a 40% decrease in sex hormone binding globlin, a 40% increase in lutenizing hormone. After 4 weeks testosterone levels rise to 4.5 times that of your normal levels but because of the decrease in SHBG, your free testosterone levels actually go up 10 fold. There also appears to be much less testosterone dumped into feces and urine so the liver and body in general is not at all thinking the new higher levels of testosterone is too much so it does nothing to remove or arimitase the excess levels. Apparently dudes walking around with 1800 level testosterone because of tongkat ali get much less estrogen conversion then a dude on steroids with a 1500 level testosterone. The Japanese found tongkat ali quite often produced higher levels of testosterone in hypogonadic men then traditional HRT/TRT injections. Some rats with primary hypogonadism caused by radiowave radiation and supposedly wiped out leydig cells actually started producing good amounts of testosterone and live sperm with the tongkat.
Also the final effect... unlike my steriod cycle where high testosterone tended to make me sleepy.... I think since the body itself is generating the high testosterone levels, its also doing it in a way that all your hormones are better balanced, thus I am not getting any sleepyness, instead I feel zapped up on energy all the time, almost like I am on ephedras except the head is really crystal clear, I have tons of energy, feel absolutely great all the time, get great sleep, every morning wake up feeling like I should go run 10 miles, the excess body fat is also burning off in a great way. This Tongkat ali seems to live up to some of the hype if you can stay with it until its kick in period (which is similar to testosterone cyp/enth, takes about 3 to 4 weeks to fully kick in and the way you feel is just like the 4 week kick in felt on steroids).