I need strength without the size

[Scienceteacher112]

Hey I’m new this, and wanted some advice. I’ve started in MMA (amateur not planning on going pro.......I’m a science teacher Lol), and really would benefit from a strength increase without adding the mass. I’ve been working out for around 5 years now, and feel like I’m at my peak. I’m 5’7” and weigh 175, but only bench press 275. I need to get down to 165, but I’m pretty nervous about losing strength getting there. My workout emphasizes strength, but I think I’ve just peaked.

 

[Milton]

your only ten pounds away from your target goal? just work on your diet.

 

[LateStart]

^^^^^this man has you covered. Diet
I responded on your other thread before I saw this

I'd try low rep ranges to keep strength......then diet and cardio for weight loss. You're practically at your goal. Good job

 

[scorob777]

Runners like winstrol because it gives you the strength and quickness boost without the size. Anavar could be another one to boost strength without size.

For both of these it would be essential to take a testosterone base, at a minimum of a TRT dose, say around 200 mg/wk to avoid problems with loss of your natural testosterone production.

With any oral you want to watch duration as they are hard on your liver. Take liver supplements and steer clear of alcohol and other drugs.

It would be best if you did a test only first cycle to see how your body responds, and to learn how to manage estrogen and learn how to PCT, before introducing orals. Read the stickies for how to do that.

 

[Scienceteacher112]

I probably should have clarified, I’m actually right in the middle of my cut to 165. I’ve actually lost 15lbs at a rate of .5-1lbs a week. I actually won’t start anything until next year, but I really need to stay around 165 to make weight. I would just greatly benefit from strength gains, but it wouldn’t work out for me to move up a weight class at my height lol. I like the idea of using winstrol though “tankmanbob”. Guess I have some studying to do

 

[Scienceteacher112]

I’m wanting to figure out a cycle catered more towards a sprinter than a bodybuilder is I guess what I’m trying to say. That may just come down to how I train while on cycle though.

 

[Mycelium]

What do you want more. To gain strenght or lose weight?

I'll start with weight classes and MMA. I've been in martial arts since I was about 9 I think. My Dad had a Tae Kwon Do school for years and I was expected to be his little star pupil. He was a pro kickboxer. North American Champ and I think 4th world wide at one time. I have a Jr Olympic Gold for boxing, regional kickboxing champ. 10lbs can be lost pre fight. I was always "dieting down". I was so lean after having tonsil removed a worker came to our house after a school fitness test. I smashed it. Top of the class! Had single digits body fat. I could drop 7 lbs not eating for 2 days and not drinking water 24-36 hours before weigh in. A week - 10 days out I would lower salt intake but drink more water. 1-2 gallons a day. No sweat suits, spotting in cups or even working out once water was stopped. Weight in ASAP. I would eat and drink immediately. Do a decently hard warm up and eat again. Munch and sip water constantly. Nothing big just a constant nibble and sip. I was about 5' 9" and fighting in the 120s weighting 130. Dropping weight is like wringing out a sponge. You need to be in "fight shape" and learn your drop. I was always bigger than my opponents. You won't get any better or stronger the last week. The last few workouts were always speed, drills and holding fight shape without injury. We can't cram for a fight. Learn your drop.

If you're benching 275 at 175 your raw strenght is good. MMA isn't powerlifting. "Strenght - Durance" is a term I made up and started a thread about. You can literally bench your opponents for reps. If you can rep out Olympic lifts for reps with 200lbs you will physically be able to pick your opponent up off the floor and loft them above your head. Advice from a pro sometime was "if you're trying to overpower your opponent you are not doing something right." The jist was if you're fighting something that hard switch it up. If some dude comes in straight gorrila strenght you will still be strong enough to provide enough resistance for him to commit and you power through a reversal, throw, or break free.

If someone practiced bench 275 for a few reps and another 200 for reps the body responds to a few extreme reps or sustaining moderate reps for a longer period of time. 6 just brutal shoves or a guy who can shove you (165lbs) with a 200lb bench 20 times for almost a minute straight.

Deadlifting 500lbs is excellent. But fighting you weight will be under 200 so repping 200 lbs trains your body for long sets/time under tension. It will mentally tax a guy if you are constantly picking him up. Up against a cage, if you can rep 20 reps with 200 lbs and you are locked up with a good position your body is ready to literally lift this guy up and put him down at least 20 times non stop. I'm mean . . . . Defend that. 1 of the 20 times you lift on this dude he will have to go down.

 

[Mycelium]

Conditioning!!!! My dad broke me down with sprints, interval training and keeping fast pace during workout and did 45 second breaks rather than 1 minute. We do not want to get tired. Ibwas getting beat down my first boxing match. Almost stopped it after the first round. 1/2 way throu round 2 he gassed and I just worked him like a heavy bag the rest of the round and the entire 3rd round and won. I never ran out of gas in a ring. Puke during training but I wanted 3 minutes of violence with no breaks. Push the pace. Get him breathing heavy, dig body/leg kicks and punch over the top. It doesn't matter how good or strong you are if you're tired. As a teen I only won several street fights because the dude got tired beating my ass and I would pop up like a jack in the box with a bloody nose Haha

 

[Mycelium]

Standard test cycle and increased training intensity and frequency would do a lot. Like mentioned in your other thread about 500mg. Work reps not more weight. You're recovery will be increased.

I did EQ alone 10 years ago training 5 days on. Started with pretty heavy weight session, core and abs, then conditioning like sprints, drills, elliptical and finished with 5 rounds. Cardio went up every day. Total workout time was about hour 1/2 Monday and over 2 hours Friday. I wish I would have been fighting. I was 172lbs, strong as fuck and could throw combinations on mits for 3 minutes straight non stop. I gained 10lbs just trying to do fight training and kept about 5 or 6lbs.

 

[Scienceteacher112]

Man that is impressive, see that’s what I need. I get gassed after three rounds. I really need to add some room in my gas tank. I love jui jitsu way to much, and really need to work on striking. I’m really just doing this as s hobby though. I just thought it would be cool to show my kids some pictures of me in the cage one day. Soon I will transition to just jui jitsu for fun again. I already love showing my kids at school now. They are inner city kids, and really enjoy talking about boxing lol.

 

[fitman1]

testE + VAR or TBOL