well i wanna do the new fasting craze on my first cycle im doing it right now pre-cycle cut i wanna do test-e 350 bd 500 mg a week for 12 weeks i got nolvadex and clomid i can easily eat 3000-3500 cals in a 4-6 hour window what do some of you novices think.....please look into it before you comment check out the hodge twins on youtube
"IF" fasting on first cycle of test e-350
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noway55
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It's possible to still grow, but I doubt you'd grow as much as eating normally.
I don't think IF is optimal while on cycle, but I guess it could help you if you're cutting.
justin h
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I strongly disagree that meal timing is irrelvant.
Give your body what it needs every 2-3hrs.(Not to pat my own back..but I've been certified in sports nutrition for 8yrs). It's all about how to kickstart/maintain your metabolism. Your body will turn into a fat burning machine if given the proper ratios at the right time. Eat 4 huge meals your metabolism will digest slow, can be helpfull when bulking. I don't prefer it though. Eat 6-7 smaller meals, giving your body just what it needs for inbetwween meals is ideal for getting lean quickly. My avatar was me at my Natural competition, (1st place mr. ann arbor) Started at 215lbs, competition day I was 182lbs. 83 day diet. Throw gear in mix.. I'd have nasty (but great) results
Give your body what it needs every 2-3hrs.(Not to pat my own back..but I've been certified in sports nutrition for 8yrs). It's all about how to kickstart/maintain your metabolism. Your body will turn into a fat burning machine if given the proper ratios at the right time. Eat 4 huge meals your metabolism will digest slow, can be helpfull when bulking. I don't prefer it though. Eat 6-7 smaller meals, giving your body just what it needs for inbetwween meals is ideal for getting lean quickly. My avatar was me at my Natural competition, (1st place mr. ann arbor) Started at 215lbs, competition day I was 182lbs. 83 day diet. Throw gear in mix.. I'd have nasty (but great) results
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TheFitnessLife4ever
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I'd say this is probably the biggest waste of a cycle I've ever seen. "IF" is some fasting bullshit that's a wanna be bodybuilding thing. It's a load of shit. 8 meals a day is not the same as getting 2-3 meals a day so don't give me that "as long as you get your calorie in bullshit." All AAS mostly does is enhance the synthesis of protein by increasing nitrogen retention. Since you can digest more protein, wouldn't u wanna take advantage of this and be giving your body protein all day instead of in a restricted timing? Not to mention going without food in the body for too long can cause a huge rise in cortisol which in turn will fuck u over. If its so great, tell me why atleast 1 pro bber isnt doing this "method"? Because its not optimal for anabolic activity. Idk man, it's just advice from actual science but you can do whatever the fuck u wanna do!
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juiceyou321
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Are you kidding? That is completely incorrect. Your body can only process and use so much at a time. Meals need to be spread out through the day into smaller portions so that you can digest the food and allocate the nutrients in quantities that your body can use. If you eat a 4000 cal thanksgiving feast for breakfast your body will only use what carbs, proteins, etc that it can at that time and the rest will either be shit out or stored as fat. Lets say that is your only meal for the day and you decide to go work out that evening. Post workout, your body isn't just going to have those nutrients waiting to use them where your body needs them, it's not like your body has a little protein storage unit that it can use when it knows your muscles need it. Thats why they say that it's pointless to take 4 scoops of your protein shake at once, because your body can only use like 40grams at a time.
TheFitnessLife4ever
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I just took a look at some of the studies done and they can't be applied in this situation. The study done DID show that rats who fasted gained less weight while eating the same calories than a rat that ate all day, but you have to take in to consideration what they were eating as well as their hormone levels. A fuckin rat eating cheese and fat with avg hormone levels is no deferent then an average obese American. If the rats were given testosterone then I would say it would produce the same results except the rat doing the fasting would just have a decrease in muscle mass. Come on man, I'm hoping your smart enough to figure out that yes "IF" is better for the avg American who eats shit but is not good for a bodybuilder especially who's taking any sort of anabolic substance. I'd also say the reason the rat didn't gain the same weight was due to the increase in cortisol which therefore made the rat catabolic which induced muscle wasting.
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noway55
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I have to agree with this, especially in regard to while being on cycle. AAS puts protein synthesis on overtime, so starving yourself for 20 hours a day is almost a waste of a cycle. Another thing to consider is that as far as I know most studies looking at the health benefits/recomposition effects of fasting/intermittent fasting is done on normal people who probably aren't even active, not bodybuilders on AAS. I can recall hearing about a couple done on athletes that compare fasted performance vs fed performance, but that's just performance, not muscle.
Smitherine
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Lots of good advice here. Don't do a cycle if your going to fast. Dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Kinda reminds me of the guys that take gear and don't lift. They just sit on the couch.
justin h
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Rrrriigghht... so your just trying to start shit for what reason? Great info you posted btw.
kamikaze
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Isn't that how you get huge muscles while on steroids? It's not about diet, dedication or how hard your workout... It's about how many bags of chips you can eat while watching tv. Don't be a fool, steroids do all the work.
juiceyou321
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Shhhhhhhh! I thought we were keeping that a secret. You're supposed to have 150 posts before earning that knowledge.
