If you were to do your first cycle again of test enth only, what dosage would you use
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crushershockey
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run 500, if you were more experienced i'd say go with 750 but 500 is more then enough
run dbol for the first 4 weeks too if you want
run dbol for the first 4 weeks too if you want
Rokomuscle1
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Check out this thread I started last year... I still say 300mg a week for a first cycle..
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51758
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51758
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string_bean00
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500
Rokomuscle1
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Curses... Foiled again.... seriously though...300mg a week is over 3 times the amount of testosterone your body makes naturally...why not start at a low dose for the first round to see how you react??
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string_bean00
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thefantom1 said:
How much actual test is there in cyp or enanth once you subtract the ester weight?
Rokomuscle1
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string_bean00 said:
I would say roughly 70mgs per each 250mg injected (roughly) So if we go by that estimate... then 300mgs of cyp/eth will roughly give you roughly 216mg of testosterone...which is still (like I said above) roughly 3 times the amount the body produces naturaly...by naturaly Im saying the average is around 70mg a week......
insaned
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I agree with thefantom1 but if you have to be prepared before starting gear ( checking your meals, you training and rest) with a normal dose, with a lower dosage you can have the bennefit of not using so mutch as 500 but you have to have all things MORE in check!
The final benefit is that you grow more with less gear, and in future you require lesser doses! Personnally i think it's have more to do with the attention payed to nutrition training and rest than the gear itself, but lesser the gear used the better!
The final benefit is that you grow more with less gear, and in future you require lesser doses! Personnally i think it's have more to do with the attention payed to nutrition training and rest than the gear itself, but lesser the gear used the better!
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riprockwell
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I agree 100% with fantom!! As some may know, I just finished a 300mg/wk Test E and 200mg/wk EQ cycle for 12 wks. I went from 150 to 195. I honestly feel that the low EQ dose was hardly enough for me to see. I contribute my growth to the low Test E dose, but mainly, I got an awesome Training and Eating routine during my cycle and that contributes why I gained so much weight. Im 180 now @ around 10% bf. I honestly feel that low dose test cycle is a great idea especially for a first time user. 90% of it IMHO is diet and training. Anyone can shoot 500 a week for 12 weeks, but few can eat 4000 calories a day for 12 weeks. A low dose test cycle combined with a great diet and training will produce amazing results for a first time user!!!
Rokomuscle1
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Do my eyes deceive me?? There are actually two people who agree with me on this??? LOL
CaptAmera9
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thefantom1 said:
Pretty much around 70.
mg of actual test/100mg dose
Test Enth = 72
Test Cyp = 70
So cyp has a little less test in it, at 300mgs cyp is equal to 210 mgs of test. In turn is exactly three times the amount of test the average person produces. BTW I like your theory in the link you posted fantom.
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string_bean00
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OK let me give one reason why I think you should do 500mg a week for a first cycle.
Say you do your first cycle of 300mg/week and it's great. You want to do test/deca for cycle two. Most guys want to keep the test higher than the deca, so you opt for 500/400. Suddenly in this cycle you are getting gyno. Now, you have no idea if the gyno is coming from A) the test, because you've never run test this high before, or B) the deca
Sure you could run 300/200 for a test/deca cycle...but how much is 200mg of deca going to do for you?
Most guys use 500mg test as a basis in their future cycles, so imo you should use 500mg in the first one to know how you react to that dose.
Say you do your first cycle of 300mg/week and it's great. You want to do test/deca for cycle two. Most guys want to keep the test higher than the deca, so you opt for 500/400. Suddenly in this cycle you are getting gyno. Now, you have no idea if the gyno is coming from A) the test, because you've never run test this high before, or B) the deca
Sure you could run 300/200 for a test/deca cycle...but how much is 200mg of deca going to do for you?
Most guys use 500mg test as a basis in their future cycles, so imo you should use 500mg in the first one to know how you react to that dose.
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