I'm a straight up noob looking for advice

[CroMag]

Greetings, guys - I'm new to the world of gear and I'm looking for advice and guidance. I've been reading and researching the subject and will continue to
do so. I've gotta be honest with you - at times it gets pretty overwhelming and, sometimes, I feel like I'm in 300 level chemestry class! First, let me give you my stats -

Age - 34 (soon to be 35)
Weight - 208
Height - 6'2"
Experience - I've dabbled off and on with weights for a long time but have been consistent for the past two years.

I've got an order of 500 Anabol 10's (BD) that should arrive relatively soon. I've read up on oral only vs. oral/injectibles and basically come to the conclusion that oral only can get results but certainly isn't ideal. Here's the thing - I've got no needle fear. I've considered going ahead and ordering ordering some Test but I want to make sure I get my Anabol first before I send some guy a bunch of my $.

Brothers - help me out. Thanks in advance.

 

[Bowzer23]

wait so what's the question. if you should add test? I have no experience with anabol or any idea about it, but from what ive heard others say test should always be the base of any cycle. would wait for the big dogs to get in here and answer your question tho

 

[I > U]

Well, what's the lab name? No contact info, but name is cool...oral only cycles will cause your test levels to plummet and mess up your hpta among other things, will also make recovery that much worse. If you have read up about beginner cycles, you would know test should be first

 

[CroMag]

wait so what's the question. if you should add test? I have no experience with anabol or any idea about it, but from what ive heard others say test should always be the base of any cycle. would wait for the big dogs to get in here and answer your question tho

I suppose I didn't really ask a direct question - sorry about that. My question is this - should I even bother doing an oral only cycle or should I wait to see if I get my stuff and, if all is good, order some test. I hear so many things about oral only cycles - they're garbage, waste of time/money, etc BUT I've also read lots of posts from guys saying they had decent results with oral only cycles. I'm in no rush - If the BEST thing to do would be to wait and get test - then that is what I'll do. I also have no idea where to get needles/syringes. Also - I would be more than happy to discuss certain specifics via email so I don't break any forum rules.

 

[CroMag]

Well, what's the lab name? No contact info, but name is cool...oral only cycles will cause your test levels to plummet and mess up your hpta among other things, will also make recovery that much worse. If you have read up about beginner cycles, you would know test should be first

No - you're absolutely right - I have read that Anabol should be a supplement to a Test cycle - but, I've also read where oral only cycles do produce results.

The lab is British Dispensary

 

[ozzyozzy21]

No - you're absolutely right - I have read that Anabol should be a supplement to a Test cycle - but, I've also read where oral only cycles do produce results.

The lab is British Dispensary

Oral only isn't the way to go. What you've read about adding test is the gospel here. Here's the biggest reason why: orals (as all AAS) shut down your natural test production you therefore have to overcome that deficiency. Taking an oral only basicly only takes you to regular or just over natural test production. Additionally, your body needs test. Without it you could have problems with a limp noodle. I think you have the right idea with this source you have. Make sure you get the other stuff first, but to properly run a cycle, you need test! TEST IS THE MALE HOROMONE! TEST SHOULD BE THE BASE OF EVERY CYCLE!

 

[GriffCity]

Certain supplement supply stores will have pins and alcohol swabs etc. I do agree that "test is best" but it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish with your cycle. For serious mass and strength the only oral i can think of would be dbol and the sides when ran alone i hear are awful. If you're looking to tighten up a bit Anavar (var) or Winstrol (winny) could help but the positive effects vs detriments are a matter of debate and the effects of these compounds is usually mild compared to most anything else. I personally ran a Anavar (var) only cycle a couple years back and liked what it did for me, hardened me up big time, cut a bit of fat and also put on some good looking lean muscle. However, the gains were minimal and nothing compared to what you get with a good test in the mix. Plus I have had mixed reviews from individuals who ran oral only cycles and im sure at least some of that depends on individual body composition and genetic make-up. Be sure to use a liver pill as well with any oral

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Sup Cro

Yeah what you read about using test in ALL cycles and that oral only cycles are a bad idea is spot on. There are some guys here who will argue about this, but they get flamed by every veteran here and their actions and advice are considered reckless and incorrect.

Typically your first cycle should be test only @ 500mg a week for 12 weeks..... The ester of choice is usually E or C because blood levels are easier to mantain than a blended estered test and also two injections per week are much easier on a person than prop or suspension. Trust me your gonna feel like a pin cusion anyhow from twice a week jabs.

SOOOOOOOO you bought Anadrol. Although the first cycle should be test only you may still decide to use your abol too. Just use it to kickstart the cycle as you would dbol, but keep in mind you should really run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with this one for bloat ( water retention = high blood pressure). I would not recommend running the anabol your 1st cycle, but if you do, make sure you research it and don't get drunk while on cycle or anything else that will stress your liver out. Also drink 2 gallons of water a day while on too.

Your a 34 y/o man so your gonna do what you want but please w/e you decide just don't do an oral only cycle. You'll be asking for it if you do. One last thing, look up post cycle therapy (pct). Nolva and clomid are your friend here.

 

[popeye50]

^^^^Good advice

 

[CroMag]

Certain supplement supply stores will have pins and alcohol swabs etc. I do agree that "test is best" but it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish with your cycle. For serious mass and strength the only oral i can think of would be dbol and the sides when ran alone i hear are awful. If you're looking to tighten up a bit Anavar (var) or Winstrol (winny) could help but the positive effects vs detriments are a matter of debate and the effects of these compounds is usually mild compared to most anything else. I personally ran a Anavar (var) only cycle a couple years back and liked what it did for me, hardened me up big time, cut a bit of fat and also put on some good looking lean muscle. However, the gains were minimal and nothing compared to what you get with a good test in the mix. Plus I have had mixed reviews from individuals who ran oral only cycles and im sure at least some of that depends on individual body composition and genetic make-up. Be sure to use a liver pill as well with any oral

I want to thank all of you for taking the time to answer and help me out. I truly appreciate it. To me this is serious business and the last thing I want to do is fuck it up because I didn't take the time to do proper research or reach out to others with experience. I know it is going to push me back several weeks but, like I said, I'm in no rush. After I get my Anabol I will order some Test. When that time comes I will again ask for the community's guidance. The supplier I'm dealing with also offers Nolva and Clomid. SERM's correct? Are both to be used? Also - is commercially available stuff like this -
amazon.com/Revolution-Black-Pure-Test-Combo/dp/B005D92GRI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350523773&sr=8-2&keywords=pct - garbage?

Again - thank you and keep the good advice coming!

 

[CroMag]

Thanks, my man - I really appreciate the words of advice. You are truly a brother in strength.

 

[juced_porkchop]

wait so what's the question. if you should add test? I have no experience with anabol or any idea about it, but from what ive heard others say test should always be the base of any cycle. would wait for the big dogs to get in here and answer your question tho

Agreed.

read this for some decent info: http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html

 

[juced_porkchop]

I want to thank all of you for taking the time to answer and help me out. I truly appreciate it. To me this is serious business and the last thing I want to do is fuck it up because I didn't take the time to do proper research or reach out to others with experience. I know it is going to push me back several weeks but, like I said, I'm in no rush. After I get my Anabol I will order some Test. When that time comes I will again ask for the community's guidance. The supplier I'm dealing with also offers Nolva and Clomid. SERM's correct? Are both to be used? Also - is commercially available stuff like this -
amazon.com/Revolution-Black-Pure-Test-Combo/dp/B005D92GRI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350523773&sr=8-2&keywords=post cycle therapy (pct) - garbage?

Again - thank you and keep the good advice coming!

keep reading and learning on post cycle therapy (pct) , AI's, gyno control etc.

but for pins, post cycle therapy (pct) etc. check out the board sponsor RUI-products, banner up top. they are GTG.

 

[juced_porkchop]

No - you're absolutely right - I have read that Anabol should be a supplement to a Test cycle - but, I've also read where oral only cycles do produce results.

The lab is British Dispensary

of course it will produce results.
if you close your eyes and cross the strees you will get to the other side, but is it smart? NO
and in most all cases after a couple months off post cycle therapy (pct) your as bad or MORE worse off then before cycle.

people that do oral only cycles are noobs (no offence) and there is a reason vets dont rec it.
that alone should be enough.

 

[CroMag]

of course it will produce results.
if you close your eyes and cross the strees you will get to the other side, but is it smart? NO
and in most all cases after a couple months off post cycle therapy (pct) your as bad or MORE worse off then before cycle.

people that do oral only cycles are noobs (no offence) and there is a reason vets dont rec it.
that alone should be enough.

No offense taken at all. I'm definitely NOT going to do an oral only. My plan is to run a Test E cycle. I have the Anabol and will probably incorporate that into a second cycle when the time is right. Again - thanks for the input.