Injecting 2 injections in the same place??

[China_Wall]

Im going to half my gear to 500mg test a week and 250 tren a week . Thanks for the heads up guys.

you'll still get a lot out of it... and will be better for you going forward

 

[mr_ectomorph]

Thank alot . I am now going to half my test to 500mg a week, and my tren to 250 a week. It is my first time. Why cant first time users use tren?

First time I used tren was on my second cycle. I got a lot of night sweats in the first 3-6weeks. Also my patience was down to zero. Everything annoyed me. I felt extremely isolated due to the fact that I was annoyed easily. My temper was literally gone. I played around with the doses, the more I bumped it, the more I felt mentally clouded and angry. I saw no big change in strength or muscle gains. Actually, I was so messed up in the head, that my workouts went to garbage.
I started at 50mg eod. Eventually I worked my way up to 140mg ed.
My point is, you want to have a good experience or impression for yourself on your first cycle. If you get all messed up, you might even decide to stop your cycle half way through because it becomes simply too harsh for you to handle.
You want to get a feel of the drugs first in your system. Your base is always testosterone, and test only cycles will give you all the results you are looking for. The rest are all auxiliary compounds that you add on your base to assist you. With a couple cycles, and decent amount of muscle on you, you can start by throwing in tren at a very low dose to just get the feel of it. If you think it's too low, you can bump your dose throughout your cycle. Acetate kicks in quick, therefore it doesn't matter if you bump it during your cycle.
What I came to realize with tren, is that eventually you build a tolerance to the side effects. So they simply fade away. The mental sides decrease alot and you know how to act on it. Right now I'm on my 4th tren blast and I am using only 350mg and it is more than enough.

 

[Jean-Claude]

Do it in one shot

 

[Shimmz2]

because tren is a strong aas with harsh sides, and most of the people here on ology who uses will mention its nothing to take likely and everyone is diff with the use of it such as sides etc. thats why its not recommended for first time users especially someone like you being young, and to be using tren you need to have a couple cycles under your belt along with knowledge.

What are the harsh sides? Where would be a good place to get some strong knowledge about tren?

 

[Shimmz2]

you'll still get a lot out of it... and will be better for you going forward

Thanks alot man.

 

[ADenver]

What are the harsh sides? Where would be a good place to get some strong knowledge about tren?

You have no idea what the sides/benefits are and you are going to run it?

Seriously, do you have no concept of what you are doing to your body? These are hormones, nothing to fuck with.

 

[Shimmz2]

First time I used tren was on my second cycle. I got a lot of night sweats in the first 3-6weeks. Also my patience was down to zero. Everything annoyed me. I felt extremely isolated due to the fact that I was annoyed easily. My temper was literally gone. I played around with the doses, the more I bumped it, the more I felt mentally clouded and angry. I saw no big change in strength or muscle gains. Actually, I was so messed up in the head, that my workouts went to garbage.
I started at 50mg eod. Eventually I worked my way up to 140mg ed.
My point is, you want to have a good experience or impression for yourself on your first cycle. If you get all messed up, you might even decide to stop your cycle half way through because it becomes simply too harsh for you to handle.
You want to get a feel of the drugs first in your system. Your base is always testosterone, and test only cycles will give you all the results you are looking for. The rest are all auxiliary compounds that you add on your base to assist you. With a couple cycles, and decent amount of muscle on you, you can start by throwing in tren at a very low dose to just get the feel of it. If you think it's too low, you can bump your dose throughout your cycle. Acetate kicks in quick, therefore it doesn't matter if you bump it during your cycle.
What I came to realize with tren, is that eventually you build a tolerance to the side effects. So they simply fade away. The mental sides decrease alot and you know how to act on it. Right now I'm on my 4th tren blast and I am using only 350mg and it is more than enough.

Thanks, your replys a BIG help to me . Iv never really been an angry person, and Im not the one to get alot acne aswel. Is it possible that a first timer can handle tren? I will heed to your advice and half my dosages, but I still want to sneak tren in there since i bought it already. I dont mind being a little more aggressive. I have already taken 1000mg of test and 400mg of test last week. I havent had any side effects so far? When do the side effects (night sweats, aggression) usually start? Im planning to cycle once for 12 weeks and never again so i want to go hard, but not too hard.If i feel like i can handle it, should i bump it up after about 6 weeks?

 

[Shimmz2]

You have no idea what the sides/benefits are and you are going to run it?

Seriously, do you have no concept of what you are doing to your body? These are hormones, nothing to fuck with.

I know that you get tren cough, increased red blood cells, night sweats, aggression, but what are the harsh sides? These sides can be managed.

 

[Shimmz2]

You have no idea what the sides/benefits are and you are going to run it?

Seriously, do you have no concept of what you are doing to your body? These are hormones, nothing to fuck with.

I know that you get tren cough, increased red blood cells, night sweats, aggression, but what are the harsh sides? These sides can be managed.

 

[Shimmz2]

First time I used tren was on my second cycle. I got a lot of night sweats in the first 3-6weeks. Also my patience was down to zero. Everything annoyed me. I felt extremely isolated due to the fact that I was annoyed easily. My temper was literally gone. I played around with the doses, the more I bumped it, the more I felt mentally clouded and angry. I saw no big change in strength or muscle gains. Actually, I was so messed up in the head, that my workouts went to garbage.
I started at 50mg eod. Eventually I worked my way up to 140mg ed.
My point is, you want to have a good experience or impression for yourself on your first cycle. If you get all messed up, you might even decide to stop your cycle half way through because it becomes simply too harsh for you to handle.
You want to get a feel of the drugs first in your system. Your base is always testosterone, and test only cycles will give you all the results you are looking for. The rest are all auxiliary compounds that you add on your base to assist you. With a couple cycles, and decent amount of muscle on you, you can start by throwing in tren at a very low dose to just get the feel of it. If you think it's too low, you can bump your dose throughout your cycle. Acetate kicks in quick, therefore it doesn't matter if you bump it during your cycle.
What I came to realize with tren, is that eventually you build a tolerance to the side effects. So they simply fade away. The mental sides decrease alot and you know how to act on it. Right now I'm on my 4th tren blast and I am using only 350mg and it is more than enough.

Thanks, your replys a BIG help to me . Iv never really been an angry person, and Im not the one to get alot of acne aswel. Is it possible that a first timer can handle tren? I will heed to your advice and half my dosages, but I still want to sneak tren in there since i bought it already. I dont mind being a little more aggressive. I have already taken 1000mg of test and 400mg of test last week. I havent had any side effects so far? When do the side effects (night sweats, aggression) usually start? Im planning to cycle once for 12 weeks and never again so i want to go hard, but not too hard.If i feel like i can handle it, should i bump it up after about 6 weeks?

 

[Viciouscycle w]

Make sure you research running anti-estrogen and anti- prolactin .you'll need both if you insist on running test and tren.

 

[juced_porkchop]

How manny ccs over all. Put them in same syringe and inject as long as its not over 3 ccs in shoulder. Even that is matter of opinion. I've heard of guys injecting 5ccs in their shoulder at one time. Prob ot a good idea in my book. I do 3ccs on a regular basis.

1.5-2ml is good in delts/quads. 3ml in glutes. you can mix them... but you need to stop and researchfirst cycles a bit more

good luck

 

[juced_porkchop]

Thanks, your replys a BIG help to me . Iv never really been an angry person, and Im not the one to get alot of acne aswel. Is it possible that a first timer can handle tren? I will heed to your advice and half my dosages, but I still want to sneak tren in there since i bought it already. I dont mind being a little more aggressive. I have already taken 1000mg of test and 400mg of test last week. I havent had any side effects so far? When do the side effects (night sweats, aggression) usually start? Im planning to cycle once for 12 weeks and never again so i want to go hard, but not too hard.If i feel like i can handle it, should i bump it up after about 6 weeks?

no one can say. soem go through hell and swear to never use tren again. others just feel a bit crappy or moody... SAVEIT! do test only. how will you actually know whats causing you issues ig you never used them on their own or added them cycle by cycle?
no excuses test only + AI + PCT for first cycle, excuses can be left on road... save it or sell it IMO

 

[mr_ectomorph]

Thanks, your replys a BIG help to me . Iv never really been an angry person, and Im not the one to get alot acne aswel. Is it possible that a first timer can handle tren? I will heed to your advice and half my dosages, but I still want to sneak tren in there since i bought it already. I dont mind being a little more aggressive. I have already taken 1000mg of test and 400mg of test last week. I havent had any side effects so far? When do the side effects (night sweats, aggression) usually start? Im planning to cycle once for 12 weeks and never again so i want to go hard, but not too hard.If i feel like i can handle it, should i bump it up after about 6 weeks?

It won't kill you to try it out. It is very tempting of a compound because it is the best injectable you will ever put your hands on.
Yes it is very possible for anyone to handle tren on a first time. Eventually you will try it out. Everyone is different, so it all depends on you.
The agressiveness gets out of hand for even the calmest person, you won't realize it until you get the mother of snaps on someone.
Usually the day after you pin it you get night sweats. For some people they start noticing the sweating and insomnia 1-3weeks in.
Start with 150mg test e eod and 75mg tren ace eod. You can bump tren every 3weeks by 25mg eod. It's extremely fast acting imo.
This means 525mg test e ew and 260mg tren ace ew. Remember, tren is 5x stronger than test. Test has a 100:100 ratio where tren has a 500:500 ratio.

 

[mr_ectomorph]

You'll need Arimidex. I don't think you will be in need of a Progesterone Antagonizer. If you can successfully keep your Estrogen levels in range, than your prolactin levels should be in range as well.
If you start noticing some puffy nipples, you can try adding some Pramipexole or Cabergoline.

 

[mr_ectomorph]

If you still decide to go for 1g of test and 400mg of tren, than you will definitely need a lot of Arimidex and some anti-prolactin. Prami is very harsh to me.
But I would most definitely not recommend you to go on such a cycle. You see better results off half this dose. Unless you want to be fighting side effects every day.

 

[Harnold]

is it okay to inject 2 injections in the same place, or would it be better if i injected 200mg tren in one shoulder, and 500mg test-e in the other shoulder?

wtf?

 

[Shimmz2]

Make sure you research running anti-estrogen and anti- prolactin .you'll need both if you insist on running test and tren.

Thanks alot. Are these supplements that come in pills that you can find at a protein store?

 

[Shimmz2]

no one can say. soem go through hell and swear to never use tren again. others just feel a bit crappy or moody... SAVEIT! do test only. how will you actually know whats causing you issues ig you never used them on their own or added them cycle by cycle?
no excuses test only + AI + PCT for first cycle, excuses can be left on road... save it or sell it IMO

But my plan is to do only one week cycle and quit. Im am not planning to use steroids again. Do you suggest i use nolvadex though out my cycle as an AI?

 

[Shimmz2]

It won't kill you to try it out. It is very tempting of a compound because it is the best injectable you will ever put your hands on.
Yes it is very possible for anyone to handle tren on a first time. Eventually you will try it out. Everyone is different, so it all depends on you.
The agressiveness gets out of hand for even the calmest person, you won't realize it until you get the mother of snaps on someone.
Usually the day after you pin it you get night sweats. For some people they start noticing the sweating and insomnia 1-3weeks in.
Start with 150mg test e eod and 75mg tren ace eod. You can bump tren every 3weeks by 25mg eod. It's extremely fast acting imo.
This means 525mg test e ew and 260mg tren ace ew. Remember, tren is 5x stronger than test. Test has a 100:100 ratio where tren has a 500:500 ratio.

Thanks this is a very big help. I am currently doing a little light, im doing 50g tren eod and 125 test eod. I havent had any side effect so far. I sleep very well on this. Do u suggest i take novladex throughtout my cycle? and what is a good anti-prolactin to take?