Injections or Pills?

[insulin_dependant]

I'm looking at doing my 1st cycle. I just read this post,

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroids-bodybuilding-articles/10449-solid-cycles-different-goals-revised.html

and am thinking of going with the outlined "Solid first cycle"
Week 1 to 10: 4-500mg of test
Week 13 to 15: clomid Therapy*

The question for me is... should I use pills, or injections. I have no qualms with shots, but wanted some feedback from those of you who are experienced.

Also, is Clomid by itself a good PCT, or should I be using other things, as well?

I read the following layout for a PCT Stack:
Layout:
Weeks 1-4- 40 mg GP Nolva per day
Weeks 1-4 100mg GP Clomiphene per day
Weeks 1-5 1mg GP Anastrozole per day
Week 1- 4,500 iu HCG
Week 2- 3,000 iu HCG
Week 3- 1,500 iu HCG

 

[vBRAH]

I would recommend:

Weeks 1-12: Test E 500mg / week (split into 2 x 250mg injections)
Weeks 14-16: Nolvadex @ 40mg ED / Clomid @ 100mg ED
Weeks 17-18: Nolvadex @ 20mg ED / Clomid @ 50mg ED

Don't believe Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) would be required on that cycle personally.
Testosterone Enanthate = injections, Nolvadex and Clomid = pills/liquid (oral form)

 

[tjkita]

Pct

PCT is usually clomid 50/50/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20. Both chemicals work in different ways to help you recover. I would also us an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like aromasin or arimidex to keep bloating and acne down during the cycle. Also use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the cycle or blast afterwards.

 

[thatotherguy]

Injection.

 

[tableshaveturned]

pretty sure they dont make test e pills

 

[thatotherguy]

pretty sure they dont make test e pills

I think they are talking about test e injections. Nothing referencing to Test E pills. (Which everyone knows doesn't exist.)

 

[balboa270]

nolva can be ran through ccle but no sense nowadays get adex I love it and run nolva and clomid togather pct

 

[numba1scrapper]

I think they are talking about test e injections. Nothing referencing to Test E pills. (Which everyone knows doesn't exist.)

Wrong, Andriol is an oral testosterone... It's a shitty oral testosterone, but it DOES exsist.

 

[numba1scrapper]

And Read DADAWGS thread on oral only cycles, oral only cycles (aside from Andriol) are pointless.

Testosterone is what builds muscle.. Oral steroids STOP testosterone production. Your trading one hormone for another doing absolutely nothing.. It's fucking up your body and waisting money.

 

[DaHurt]

What are your stats OP? And welcome to Ology.

 

[thatotherguy]

Wrong, Andriol is an oral testosterone... It's a shitty oral testosterone, but it DOES exsist.

I am stating "Test E" as a substance in itself.

 

[numba1scrapper]

I am stating "Test E" as a substance in itself.

ahh, gotcha

 

[DADAWG]

Wrong, Andriol is an oral testosterone... It's a shitty oral testosterone, but it DOES exsist.

it was a good idea that just didnt work , oral test just doesnt make its way from the stomach and into the bloodstream with much if any effectiveness.

 

[numba1scrapper]

it was a good idea that just didnt work , oral test just doesnt make its way from the stomach and into the bloodstream with much if any effectiveness.

without taking like 12 pills at the a time anyway lol... Would be legit if it worked.

 

[insulin_dependant]

Thanks guys.

My stats... I'm currently 35 years old, 6 feet tall, 220 lbs, and not sure of my bf%. I think it's ~15%. I've constantly struggled with my weight due to a hypo-active thyroid. I'm also a type 1 diabetic, and have been so since 12.

I've never used steroids before, but am seriously considering it at this point. Being a diabetic (as well as having a hypo-active thyroid) I find that my body heals much slower than others', and that despite my best efforts I have yet to reach my physique goals. I've been studying the after-burn effect and from what I understand the more muscle mass you put on the more calories your body consumes just at rest. 1 lb muscle consumes 50 calories at rest. So the way I figure it, if I put on 10-15 lbs of muscle, it will burn an extra 500-750 calories in my hours of not working out, right?

I have no aspirations to become a massive bodybuilder. I just want enough lean gains to get a 6 pack, but am timid to increase my cals as high as I've been reading people suggest, as I have a very hard time losing weight.

I've used HCG coupled with a lo cal diet (500 cals per day) over the past few years to drop from 340 lbs to 210. I've done this in cycles of about 2-3 months, and then try to stabilize the weight loss I've achieved over several more months before doing another HCG round.

I've also worked in a fair amount of lifting in between these HCG rounds, and just finished a round of P90x, but still haven't gotten the chiseled look I'm going for.

Whereas I'm 35, I'm thinking that using HGH with my first steroid cycle, as well as afterwards just as a normal routine, may help in my overall physique.

I'm considering doing a 12 week basic mass stack, followed by PCT, followed by a 10 week fat burn cycle toggling between 3 weeks of clen, 4 weeks of CYTOMEL, and then 3 more of clen.

I was hoping for some feedback on this, and what cycle or stack people would recommend to get and maintain some lean mass... hopefully someone out there has a background in endocrinology and experience with various cycles.

Any feedback is appreciated, though. Thanks guys.

 

[SigmundRoid]

As for your original question, read this:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html