Insulin

[MALEMAN]

I have been injecting Insulin for several weeks. I administer injection 3X a week after a workout. I consume lean carbs usually a creatine product just before injection. I have been following the protocol of 1IU per 20 lbs of body weight.

I am in my 40's. I am concerned because as we age muscle cells become insulin resistant while fat cells become insulin sensitive. So the potential for putting on fat is greater. I have not really noticed much of a difference in terms of how it is supposed to pack the muscle with nutrients. Is anyone using insulin as an anabolic compound? Is it working? How much and when do u administer?

 

[bilbo]

If I were you I would inject everyday for about 8 weeks and then stay off for about 4 weeks. Also, I would split my injections into 2. One in the morning when your body is most glycogen depleted and your muscles take up the carbs you eat in the morning much better. This gives you less of a chance of getting fat. The second injection should be immediately after your workout. This is when your capillaries leading to your muscle cells are dilated and much more nutrients can be shoved into your muscles. Make sure that you eat atleast 6 carbs for each iu you inject, immediately. That is a minimum. Many people say 10 to be on the safe side. Don't do preworkout injections unless you like passing out infront of the whole gym. Especially on leg day.
All in all, insulin isn't a wonderdrug or anything. It just helps guys in bridging between cycles and it helps those who don't want to do a cycle.
bilbo

 

[elijah_123]

I suggest not doing it every day, much easier to gain fat then.
What type of slin are you using? If humalog try Hum-r it is longer lasting.
Next try a low dose of t3 12.5 or 25mcg it helps with insulin sensitivity.
Next if you don't weigh 200lb then up the dose to 10 IU, if you are over 200 try 15 IU and see how that works for you.

Administration should be timed well. If you are using humulin-r I suggest trying to inject one or two sets before your work out and keeping carbs/protein mix handy, like RIGHT beside you during the work out and drive home.

Try the upped dosage and t3 before moving to injecting while working out so you can get used to the changes those two have on you.

 

[liftsiron]

My advice to you is don't use insulin without gh or your going to get fat. If fact if I were you, in my forties I wouldn't use insulin at all, your playing with fire. All the bullshit that that you read about insulin being the most anabolic hormone is just that bullshit.

Test is what your aging body is desireing to pack on muscle, and 2i.u.s of gh a day will allow you to eat like a horse and add lean muscle. I'm in your same age group and have been around for along time, take my word Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is what you need, far more than insulin.

 

[elijah_123]

How much experience do you have with insulin liftsiron?

 

[liftsiron]

How much experience do you have with insulin liftsiron?

Don't get me wrong your advice is very sound and should work. But we are talking about a bro who is in his mid forties, and insulin tends to make us fatter as we age. I gave up insulin except with hgh because at my age I gain belly fat easier than a dozen years ago. Also I seem to need more carbs along with the insulin to control bouts of hypogyycemia. You know your shit about insulin no doubt, but it is the age factor that concerns me. There is no doubt that in an over forty bro test is the most desired anabolic agent.

 

[JohnnyB]

I'd go to a Dr, because if your insulin resistant the slin isn't going to work because your body is resisting it. What you may need is Advandia or Actos, these drugs are for insulin resistance. The differance with these 2 over others is they help with glucose entering the muscle cell.

The danger of insulin resistance is that you blood thickens as the glucose enters the blood raising your blood sugars. 2 hours after your meal your blood sugars should be back to normal or close to. If they are still elavated this puts more stress on the heart then normal. Which is dangerous for us at your age.

Bro go out and buy a glucose meter and check your blood sugar, before a meal then 2 hours after or do this when using the slin, if their not back to normal or close to. You should stop the slin(which I'd do now anyway) and go to the Dr and get tested for insulin resistance.

Bro at our age we need to stay as safe as possible, actually at any age.

JohnnyB

 

[elijah_123]

Don't get me wrong your advice is very sound and should work. But we are talking about a bro who is in his mid forties, and insulin tends to make us fatter as we age. I gave up insulin except with hgh because at my age I gain belly fat easier than a dozen years ago. Also I seem to need more carbs along with the insulin to control bouts of hypogyycemia. You know your shit about insulin no doubt, but it is the age factor that concerns me. There is no doubt that in an over forty bro test is the most desired anabolic agent.

Sorry I was half asleep and half mad at being awake when I typed that so it was ruder than I intended. I'm still fairly young so haven't used insulin in my 40's yet and wasn't sure. The fat gain problem is why I suggested the t3 it will help him stay lean and get insulin sensitivity up. My concern about HGH is that it increases insulin resistance so it may not help this case much.

I agree on the test. At the very least get on HRT or something if you don't want to mess with sources/cycles/pct etc.

Part of me can't wait to be older and get on HRT... gotta find a doc that things 600mg of Enan sounds like a good replacement level hehehe

Peace, and sorry for souding insulent bro.

 

[MALEMAN]

I suggest not doing it every day, much easier to gain fat then.
What type of slin are you using? If humalog try Hum-r it is longer lasting.
Next try a low dose of t3 12.5 or 25mcg it helps with insulin sensitivity.
Next if you don't weigh 200lb then up the dose to 10 IU, if you are over 200 try 15 IU and see how that works for you.

Administration should be timed well. If you are using humulin-r I suggest trying to inject one or two sets before your work out and keeping carbs/protein mix handy, like RIGHT beside you during the work out and drive home.

Try the upped dosage and t3 before moving to injecting while working out so you can get used to the changes those two have on you.

Yes i have heard thet T3 works well with insulin. I am taking R- ALA 300mg. That is supposed to help with insulin sensitivity as well. I should pick up some T3 I will look into it

 

[liftsiron]

Sorry I was half asleep and half mad at being awake when I typed that so it was ruder than I intended. I'm still fairly young so haven't used insulin in my 40's yet and wasn't sure. The fat gain problem is why I suggested the t3 it will help him stay lean and get insulin sensitivity up. My concern about HGH is that it increases insulin resistance so it may not help this case much.

I agree on the test. At the very least get on HRT or something if you don't want to mess with sources/cycles/pct etc.

Part of me can't wait to be older and get on HRT... gotta find a doc that things 600mg of Enan sounds like a good replacement level hehehe

Peace, and sorry for souding insulent bro.

Everything's cool bro, It's hard to find a doctor who will prescribe much more than 100mgs of test a week for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), 200mg seems to be the limit. MALEMAN I would listen to Johnny B. and get a complete medical check up, and get an ECG before you experiment with T-3 it can put quite a strain on the heart.

 

[muscle_geek]

Don't want to hijack this thread, but I've used insulin at 10iu's a day after workouts for four days a week for the last three weeks and haven't gained a pound. Good pumps bu no weight. And I eat like a freaking horse aftwards. Meals, Those XXL drinks. I'm 35, 6'5, 240. To this point I don't see much in results vs. the pain in the ass it is taking slin. Humulin-R

 

[elijah_123]

Is the humulin-r fresh and never been in extreme heat? Even with out the slin if you are eating above calories you should be gaining weight. Trust meif there is one thing slin DOES not do is prevent weight gain

Yeah I know one is hard to find that will prescribe it that high, but I can hope