Is 100MG of Test Prop EOD enough to see results?

[Marino]

I was going to try Tren for my second cycle, but it's expensive as hell so I thought I'd just try Prop and Dbol for now.


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Is 300/400MG of Prop a week enough to see good results? I want to do 12 weeks of Prop EOD and 5 weeks of Dbol at 50MG ED.

I'm starting Week 5 on a 500MG a week Test E only cycle on Monday and up about 12 pounds.

 

[R1rider]

your on week 5 of a test e cycle bro. im guessing you have 5-7 more weeks??

if so slow your roll and focus on this cycle. focus on your diet and training. take the time off, pct and worry about the second cycle later

 

[Marino]

your on week 5 of a test e cycle bro. im guessing you have 5-7 more weeks??

if so slow your roll and focus on this cycle. focus on your diet and training. take the time off, pct and worry about the second cycle later

Yeah man, 7 more weeks left. I plan on taking 16 weeks off before I cycle again but no harm in getting some knowledge right?

 

[_Phantom_]

I thought you were suppose to keep with one dosage of test a week and keep it there?

 

[dylangemelli]

I thought you were suppose to keep with one dosage of test a week and keep it there?

test prop is dosed EOD or sometimes ED because the ester is much shorter than other test...

 

[Marino]

I thought you were suppose to keep with one dosage of test a week and keep it there?

That's how I'm running my Test E right now. 250MG pins, twice a week on Mondays and Thursdays.

But if you're using Prop, then you have to pin ED or EOD. If you're pinning EOD then it would obviously not be consistent because of spacing out the days of the week.

 

[_Phantom_]

With prop i was told to keep the dosage the same for stable blood levels, less sides. But i guess its true that its not going to be consistent if you do every other day.

A tad confusing lol

 

[bigmike33]

Eod for test prop is plenty if it true 100mgs. And yes u will see great gain i love prop. I even run prop with other test making it kinda like a blend but not the full dose..

 

[Supercharged]

....so I thought I'd just try Prop and Dbol for now.

Is 300/400MG of Prop a week enough to see good results? I want to do 12 weeks of Prop EOD and 5 weeks of Dbol at 50MG ED.

250mg's a week of test is enough to show good results, so yes, 300 to 400mg of test a week can show great results.

I consider 50mg's a day of Dbol to be a higher dose for a more experienced user. 30mg's a day of Dbol by itself can be magic if you train and eat correctly.

YES. BY ITSELF.

 

[Marino]

250mg's a week of test is enough to show good results, so yes, 300 to 400mg of test a week can show great results.

I consider 50mg's a day of Dbol to be a higher dose for a more experienced user. 30mg's a day of Dbol by itself can be magic if you train and eat correctly.

YES. BY ITSELF.

Awesome, exactly what I wanted to know.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Eod for test prop is plenty if it true 100mgs. And yes u will see great gain i love prop. I even run prop with other test making it kinda like a blend but not the full dose..

See bold above: 100% correct.

Prop does not...NOT...need to be injected ED when used alone. That is why an ester has been attached...to AVOID daily injections.

Prop can be injected ED, as it will result in the most stable blood levels, but for the average cycler, an EOD injection schedule is completely fine when prop is the shortest ester being used in the cycle. People sometimes make to big of a deal over "even blood levels", as if even slight deviations are somehow going to reduce gains or cause severe side effects. This is NOT the case.

We see guys all the time saying that it is fine to inject cyp and enth twice weekly, but then these same guys turn around and say prop should be injected every day. Really? This is kind of odd being that all of the freely available research on the subject shows that injecting cyp/enth 2X weekly will result in at least as much flucuation in blood levels as injecting prop EOD (probably more).

If one is injecting cyp/enth 2X weekly, there will be 4 days between one of the injections and 3 days between the other. All of the graphs detailing the release rates of cyp/enth show that cyp/enth reaches peak blood level concentrations within 24-36 hours post-injection and begin to decline rapidly after that. By day 4, testosterone levels have declined significantly.

So, it is very contradictory for anyone to say prop must be injected ED, yet turn around and say it is fine to inject cyp/enth 2X weekly.

We also read on the boards all the time that is is completely fine to inject tren ace EOD. How in all hell can it be fine to inject Tren ace EOD, but not inject the longer-estered Test prop EOD? That makes no sense at all.

The bottom line is that there are only a few circumstances in which injecting Test prop ED would be ideal. An EOD injection schedule is completely fine when test prop is the shortest ester being used in the cycle. When prop is the sole ester being used, ED pinning will only result in excess scar tissue build-up, but not greater gains.


When the esters shown below are the shortest esters being used within a cycle, the injection guidelines presented below are suitable for almost all steroid users, with few exceptions. We should try to maximize blood level stability when possible, but the only time it would make sense to depart from these guidelines is when combining multiple esters (I will explain later).


Ace ester: ED to EOD.
Prop: EOD to possibly 3X weekly.
Cyp/enth: 2-3X weekly.


These injection frequencies can change if the user is using multiple esters at once. As a geneal rule, the injection frequency of all esters should follow suit with the shortest ester being used in the cycle, assuming total injection volume permits it. In other words, if someone is using an ace ester and an enth ester in the same cycle, they might as well put them both in the same pin and use the injection frequency most suitable for the shortest ester, which in this case is ace. This cuts down on excess injections and further evens out blood levels of the longer-estered steroid(s).

For example, let's say someone is going to be running the following cycle:

Test enth: 1,050 mg/week.
Tren ace: 525 mg/week.


During this cycle, let's say they are planning on injecting Tren ace on an ED scedule, which is fine if that is what the user wants to do. In this case, it does not make any sense to inject the test enth on a 2-3 weekly injection schedule. Since the ace ester will already necessitate a more frequent injection schedule, both steroids might as well be added to the same pin.

When attempting to inject a total of 525 mg/week of tren ace on an ED injection schedule, the user would need to inject 75 mg of Tren ace per day. Being that the user will still have over 2 cc's of available syringe space left after loading the Tren ace, the user could also load the same pin with 150 mg of Test enth. Daily injections of 75 mg Tren ace & 150 mg of Test enth will supply the user with the desired weekly amount of both AAS, but will result in a minimal injection frequency (based on the short ester) and the most even blood levels possible for both esters.

So, the ideal injection frequency for each ester can change based on what esters are being combined in the same cycle. In essence, the user should attempt to minimize the number of weekly injections, while also stabilizing blood levels as much as possible. Unless the amount of AAS being used is very large, most users can inject all their esters at the same frequency, being based on the shortest ester within the cycle.

 

[lottalead]

when doing under 750mg of test and twice a week aren't you
better off with sust with some esters being faster?
all i do now is test and lower doses for longer periods and love the results from sust
i am not really a serious just like to stay in shape

 

[curiouzG]

R1

R1 you seem like you know your stuff im going to start using but I'm not really knowledgeable in steroids. I was thinking of going with test prop because it doesn't stay in ur system long (I have to take urine screens occasionally)
What are some others I can "stack" with it. I am 150lbs and I stand at 5'9" I want lean muscle. None of that bloatiness and I dont want to take the pill. Injection only

 

[3J]

u bumped a 2 year old thread brother

 

[FFL]

Dude's 1st post is already a fail.