Is my 2nd cycle ready? Test/Tren/Winny/PCT

Seems like a lot to me as someone researching for their first cycle, I think weights=life's suggestion more in line with my own. Did you have any adverse sides from your first cycle (joint pain from the winny)? What were the results in terms of your lifts or bodyfat?
 
I think you should leave the prop out your making this cycle really complicated, or put it at the beginning for a kick start. You also shouldnt run Winstrol (winny) two weeks after prop, after test e or c is ok though.
 
Seems like a lot to me as someone researching for their first cycle, I think weights=life's suggestion more in line with my own. Did you have any adverse sides from your first cycle (joint pain from the winny)? What were the results in terms of your lifts or bodyfat?

No I didn't get any strange side from the Winstrol (winny). My results were lean gains and lost about 8% body fat.
 
I think you should leave the prop out your making this cycle really complicated, or put it at the beginning for a kick start. You also shouldnt run Winstrol (winny) two weeks after prop, after test e or c is ok though.

So if I decide to put it at the beginning to kick start, do I run the prop first followed by the test e then c? That sounds like it would take care of it being followed by the Winstrol (winny).
Keep in mind I will be running Tren the whole time I'm running all test.
 
Thats a shit load of tren. 400mg is more than enough IMO

The terminalogy of front loading is to use a fast acting compound while your waiting for the long esters to kick in!

So you run the Prop if thats what u choose. At the beginning of your cycle along with the Test C or E as it take a while to kick in. Some claim 4 or 5 weeks. Debatable IMO

Thats why you see people using orals at the beginning of a cycle.

Oh I would take the Winstrol (winny) back to whom ever you got it from tell them to pack it in there ass! But thats just me
 
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