Is my gear underdosed? 1750 ng/dl

Im thinking about pinning more. But come to think of it I did alittle more than 250 because I forgot about the extra in the needle so it may be around 275-285mg?

How old are you Rikardo ?

From posts I read I should be above 2500 ? In around 3000 ?
yes definitely. and assuming your HCG is real, your test should be even higher. i would contact that lab and show them your bloodwork results and ask for a refund. thats what i did when ARL fucked me over
 
yes definitely. and assuming your HCG is real, your test should be even higher. i would contact that lab and show them your bloodwork results and ask for a refund. thats what i did when ARL fucked me over

I already gave them my blood results so just waiting now.

Yes my HCG is pharma grade.

I already started my first pin of my new lab. How long till that kicks in to bring up my levels? Hopefully not another 4 weeks that would suck.
 
yes but if you are at 1750 it's still way above normal levels and you should have better gains... BTW I did also test in 2 weeks 6 days so almost 3 weeks my result was 1437ng/dl so yours is maybe little bit underdosed and you can try pin more like 600mg/week or you just need more...

You can't make a generalized statement like that. Gains are literally dependent on food, training and rest - THEN drugs. While I agree that it's probably a bit light in hormone content, the amount of weight gained is really not an accurate way to determine effectiveness.

Talk to the lab and see what they'll do for you. If they want your business, they'll work with you. Simple as that. ;)
 
Try and get better shit, if you can. If not, 1750 is plenty good for good gains, and definitely a blast from the normal 350-850.

Don't go throwing the shit in the trash over what some clowns around here think. I wouldn't go shooting too much of that shit in one spot either. If you do choose to take more, you'll probably want to split pins.

Just to give you an idea of what good shit should net you, check out the link Megatron shared. My shit I'm pinning right now has me over 1500 at 375pw with once a week pins, and three days after the pin.
 
I already gave them my blood results so just waiting now.

Yes my HCG is pharma grade.

I already started my first pin of my new lab. How long till that kicks in to bring up my levels? Hopefully not another 4 weeks that would suck.
go test your HCG. get some pregnancy tests from a supermarket and put a few drops of hcg on it. if the test comes back pregnant then its real shit
 
Im on TRT 150mg a week and my TT is 1600...

Sometimes taking shit load of puff aint gon make your body blow up! It´ll try to combat what ever shit you are doing against it, now combine the fact that i have gone through the roughest chemo on earth 9months ago. Splitted my stomach by 20cm scar and removed shit behind my intestins. Oh yeah, a 5cm scar to the right lower abdomen this is where my tumor/testicle was pulled out. Idd guess your e2 is still abit off, and that alot of that test is converted into DHT hence the lower reading.

Ive seen guys use 1g of test, and they would still not surpass my strength back then when i did not juice.

So i have suffered for 5-6months on shitty side-effects and walking like a dead zombie. Ive been lifting for about 4-5months now, my deadlift is 240kg
Squat is 200kg
Bench is 130kg
I weight 86kg and look like a normal human-being.

Im not trying to come out like a hero, but what i am trying to say is that more is not always good! Pre-workout vs a juice with 6carrots, 4apples, 2lemons, 1ginger is going to powerup your body far beyound chems... Sometimes a proper healthy functional body is simply going to get better affected by doing roids.
 
My HCG Is from Pregnyl plus my balls havent shrunk they are normal size.

Im training and eating. Im not throwing this lab out im just trying the other lab I have. If I cant even gain 2lb in muscle with the amount im eating and training then gear isnt for me.

I mean I should be able to gain at least 2lbs, even though thats pretty low and my first cycle.

But ive been increasing in strength a bit every week so hopefully it keeps going up for the remaining weeks.

i dont want to take more test as i want to see how my body responds to the 500mg per week and see what i do after this cycle. i just want to find out if its the gear or what.

im 211lb with 18%BF. Does 2800 TDEE sound right?
 
My HCG Is from Pregnyl plus my balls havent shrunk they are normal size.

Im training and eating. Im not throwing this lab out im just trying the other lab I have. If I cant even gain 2lb in muscle with the amount im eating and training then gear isnt for me.

I mean I should be able to gain at least 2lbs, even though thats pretty low and my first cycle.

But ive been increasing in strength a bit every week so hopefully it keeps going up for the remaining weeks.

i dont want to take more test as i want to see how my body responds to the 500mg per week and see what i do after this cycle. i just want to find out if its the gear or what.

im 211lb with 18%BF. Does 2800 TDEE sound right?
Sounds low if you are training hard. I am at 3100kcal at 200lbs. Calculating tdee takes some trial and error. Go over tdee if you want to gain mass. Make sure to track properly and count all the kcals you take in. Describe your balls in more detail so I can make sure that hcg is working for you.
 
Sounds low if you are training hard. I am at 3100kcal at 200lbs. Calculating tdee takes some trial and error. Go over tdee if you want to gain mass. Make sure to track properly and count all the kcals you take in. Describe your balls in more detail so I can make sure that hcg is working for you.

lol describe my balls in more detail? what do you mean ? they arent the size of peas they are the size they've always been for me. nice and plump lol

i was tracking my cals at start but now im eating more. i was eating 6 meals per day now i'm eating 7 meals.

This is my general meals:

8:45am
1 cup oats
2 TBSP Peanut butter
half carton 500g egg whites which is around 7 eggs

11:15
1 cup greek yogurt + 0.5 scoop protein (15 grams) + blueberries or strawberries
1 banana
4 rice cakes
2 TBSP Peanut butter

1:45
6 oz ext lean ground meat (sirloin, turkey, beef, chicken) + 2tbsp low carb dressing (2g fat + 1g per tbsp so around 3 tbsp)
1 cup veggies
200g potato or 1 cup rice

4:45
6 oz ext lean ground meat (sirloin, turkey, beef, chicken) + 2tbsp low carb dressing (2g fat + 1g per tbsp so around 3 tbsp)
1 cup veggies
200g potato or 1 cup rice

7:15
1 cup greek yogurt + 0.5 scoop protein (15 grams) + blueberries or strawberries
2 tbsp peanut butter
1 banana

9:00
4 rice cakes
tbsp peanut butter

(right after workout 30 gummi bears and then 1.5 scoop protein - 45 grams protein)

10:15
7 egg whites
2 slice whole wheat bread (16 grams protein per 2 slice and 1 carb)

I tracked this plan before and these were the totals:

Cals: 3,418
Carbs: 350
Fat: 90
Protein: 335
Sodium: 2,373

And now im trying to cram another meal between 7:15 and 10:15 and pushing 10:15 into later.

Does this meal plan look good?

Today i had a cheat meal and brought my cals :

Cals 4150
carbs 411
fat 127
protein 324
 
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10:15
7 egg whites
2 slice whole wheat bread (16 grams protein per 2 slice and 1 carb)
I'm honestly too tired to break down your diet, and there are guys far better at diet advice than myself - but I do have a question about the little snippet above. Where on earth did you find wheat bread that has 1g of carbs per 2 slices?? I'm thinking this is a typo, but I would rather ask than assume. Most bread I see that isn't ezekiel or the like has about 24g of carbs for 2 slices...
 
I'm honestly too tired to break down your diet, and there are guys far better at diet advice than myself - but I do have a question about the little snippet above. Where on earth did you find wheat bread that has 1g of carbs per 2 slices?? I'm thinking this is a typo, but I would rather ask than assume. Most bread I see that isn't ezekiel or the like has about 24g of carbs for 2 slices...

It is that new Rib Eye bread they came out with.
 
If your kcals are at 4000 you will gain. You mentioned 2800kcals earlier. Maybe not jump up to 4000 from 2800. Find a middle ground and establish your tdee by closely monitoring weight and activity levels in a time period of 2 weeks. Then adjust from there.
 
I'm honestly too tired to break down your diet, and there are guys far better at diet advice than myself - but I do have a question about the little snippet above. Where on earth did you find wheat bread that has 1g of carbs per 2 slices?? I'm thinking this is a typo, but I would rather ask than assume. Most bread I see that isn't ezekiel or the like has about 24g of carbs for 2 slices...

theres a local store that has them its called Dream Bread

they have bread and bagels and theyre 1g carb per bagel and 16g protein (it has 18g carbs but 17grams are fiber)

Here is the link: thelowcarbgrocery.com/catalog/bakers-deluxe-dream-bagel-g-395.html?prod_id=5718

thats one example they have others. taste amazing when toasted.
 
If your kcals are at 4000 you will gain. You mentioned 2800kcals earlier. Maybe not jump up to 4000 from 2800. Find a middle ground and establish your tdee by closely monitoring weight and activity levels in a time period of 2 weeks. Then adjust from there.

sorry i meant my tdee was around 2800 but im consuming around 3400 and im trying to increase it further to see if it helps. Ive been at 3400 for about 2 weeks now i was originally eating less. Maybe thats why ive increased a bit but not alot.

i started on the new lab anyways so im hoping that will give me better effects.
 
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Here is a guide to go off of from a medical study for TT levels for given doses.

AJPENDO : Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab

Read the link in my signature for more info.

Well according to this study adding 25 mg of test a week completely obliterates your LH levels,which are even a little higher on 600 mg. Shuts you down completely.


This is in contrast with the other study that says 50 mg supresses LH by 50% but 100 mg and 300 mg are the same concerning LH levels.

Effects of chronic testosterone administration in normal men: safety and efficacy of high dosage testosterone and parallel dose-dependent suppressi... - PubMed - NCBI



Either way,enathate and such esters that deliver round the clock seem to be the most suppresssive as far as I`ve seen.
 
Well according to this study adding 25 mg of test a week completely obliterates your LH levels,which are even a little higher on 600 mg. Shuts you down completely.


This is in contrast with the other study that says 50 mg supresses LH by 50% but 100 mg and 300 mg are the same concerning LH levels.

Effects of chronic testosterone administration in normal men: safety and efficacy of high dosage testosterone and parallel dose-dependent suppressi... - PubMed - NCBI



Either way,enathate and such esters that deliver round the clock seem to be the most suppresssive as far as I`ve seen.

Hi killer

Not sure what your post is about. Are you saying using test enth is a bad idea? Or using more is a bad idea?
 
theres a local store that has them its called Dream Bread

they have bread and bagels and theyre 1g carb per bagel and 16g protein (it has 18g carbs but 17grams are fiber)

Here is the link: thelowcarbgrocery.com/catalog/bakers-deluxe-dream-bagel-g-395.html?prod_id=5718

thats one example they have others. taste amazing when toasted.

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You have no idea how long I've been looking for something like this!

I'm going to be looking around more online, as that's a CRAZY good macro distribution!

Thanks!
 
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