I was going to do a Sustanon only cycle (as deca and tren shuts my libido down) and I was going to compensate for it by doing higher doses but I was wondering if theres a limit of how much test you do before it reverses the other way? I'm sure this is partly what Testerone Replacement Therapy is but I'd like to do more to get more gains so Is there a way to find this.
Is There A Limt Of Test Before Libido Reverses Down?
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Croation758
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You need to worry about an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like arimadex. It will keep your estrogen in check, not eliminate it. You don't want to do that, some estrogen controls lipids and fluid/ electrolyte balance. But to keep it in check will help libido. Deca is a whole different subject, it's because of prolactins that kill your labido. You can fix that with proviron, which also helps free bound testosterone. Research these before flicking with roids bro. Don't use any AAS until you know these things, they are elementary.
jkr2020788
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im not sure you will get a definitive response out of this question, as everyone's body is different. Im sure you are looking for a round about number, but I dont think there is one since every human is so different. It would be interesting to know tho. I think what Croatian was trying to say though was as test dose increases, so does estrogen, so keeping it under control will help with libido. Labwork will give you those estro levels, and keep them within normal range, and you should be good, no matter what dose you take.
Beck-Miester
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HCG is not an AI.... Use Arimidex to control Estrogen caused by the aromatization of Testosterone, and if you are using a 19Nor like tren or Deca, use Caber to control Prolactin. Its true that everyone is different. I am running 900mg of Sustanon/wk and 400mg of 19Nor/wk. I'm using Adex for estrogen control and caber for prolactin control, and my libido is ROCKIN! I'm constantly walking around like I have a piece of oak in my shorts! Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (IMO) should be taken at the end of a cycle, prior to the start of PCT
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Carpe Genitalia
Croation actually did answer your question. The estrogen levels are what you have to worry about when losing your libido, not test levels. However (like jkr said) as your test levels go up, so do your estrogen levels.
What I can add to this is that most natural processes are not linear and in the case of the benefits of exogenous testosterone, I feel it's a pretty safe assumption that it exhibits diminishing returns, i.e. if you put on 20lbs with 500mg of test/wk for 12 weeks that doesn't mean you're going to get 40lbs running a gram for 12 weeks.
Jack Tors
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what do you weigh? not that many people need or should run test that high. more doesn't always mean better just more sides. you may want to reconsider that move.
Strong Man
Over Train
So this is your 5th cycle and you think Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) haha. I call bull shit or you were doing cycles without proper research.
Strong Man
Over Train
How is your rep power 8 and you just learned what an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is?
260lb bud...for me there is def a difference between 750 and 1200 in terms of gains.
Yea more gear does equal more sides but in his defense everytime i plateau during a cycle and up my dose lets say 150mg i put on a little more weight and get a little stronger. Coming off always seems harder with the more gear you use though so you gotta find your sweet spot on what dose to run and gains you want expecting the sides and shitty come down. and to the guy that started the thread man 5 cycles bro. Research Research Research. this stuff isn't to be taking lightly. I have Bois that seriously have just messed there self up from not running their gear right for to long wrong doses no AI's No Pcts etc. If your running test get you some Arimidex, Any 19 Nor such as Deca or Tren you need caber or prami. You don't have a libido on deca because you prolactin is thru the roof and what that basically does is tell your brain hey we don't need to have sex so the desire is gone. FYI when you bang your girl and blow a load your prolactin rises and tells your brain we have mated and spread our seed no need for sex anymore. Thats y your no longer horny. When your prolactin stays high you have this feeling constantly. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on longer cycles needs to be ran through but thats a whole nother subject. Best bet for you is to do research before you hurt yourself.
Thanks. Yah I never felt need for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) before and was only interested in the gaining muscle part. Obviously if I'm going to do another cycle I want to research it right which is why Im gonna sign up with 3J nutrition. But doing Sustanon and Dbol (and not a 19) I still trying to find best dose to run the test.
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