Is this a good cycle/PCT?

[oldmusclemike]

On Steroidology, there's a few posts. Not in this exact forum.

Not lying about the 50lbs. But I'd like to point out that it wasn't lean mass, it was both lean and fat...as stated in my first post on the subject.

Not a big deal, but I'm 6' even. I didn't want to be at 130, but that's where I got pursuing my education goals and being poor.

Moving on, I don't want to gain 50lbs. I'm sure I've made this clear, 15-20lbs is my goal.
I'm not meaning to argue, and hope it's not coming across as such. I'm trying to form a well-rounded cycle tailored for my goals and growth type. As you can see, I'm trying to take in everything everyone is saying, and my cycle has changed already 3-4 times with the advice given. I'll be adding clomid with the nolva as well.

Get your head on straight. A shot cycle will not produce what you want to gain. Also look what I posted 15lbs in a YEAR. Yes one year, that's if EVERYTHING, diet, rest. training, blood work etc... are on POINT.
Back to the drawing board the revise your Q's and listen, take notes ... Good luck

 

[Roush]

I'm sure guys are tired of me posting this pic..
But this is proof that a simple testosterone only cycle works wonders if diet and training are spot on

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Just stick to the basics fitnessbro

 

[oldmusclemike]

I don't know what else it could be if my BF% stayed the same throughout. If I gained weight that stayed, and it wasn't fat...what would it have been? I assumed I gained so fast because of muscle memory, since I had been 200lbs in the past.

OP, no one is getting through to you it seems. You seem to disregard the facts of aas, your body and this sport. I believe you are vey confused with knowing what LMM, Fat, and Water look like, both separate and combined. Study up more, read, revise your Q's and look at more photos. Post some pics for us to critique

 

[tbonexl]

It's very difficult to gain 5 lbs of muscle a year. 15 lbs? 50???

 

[tury694]

It's very difficult to gain 5 lbs of muscle a year. 15 lbs? 50???

Everyone gains 50lbs a cycle with ease brah. I'm up 88lbs on a test cycle dude.

 

[Roush]

It's very difficult to gain 5 lbs of muscle a year. 15 lbs? 50???

^^^ true

What a lot of guys don't realize while on cycle and training hard and gaining weight (say 15-20lbs) is that that is not all new muscle fibers. sure your muscles are bigger fuller "swole" etc.. But that's not 15 pounds of new muscle..
What's going on is that while training the muscle you are creating micro tears in the fibers,, this signals for your body to send blood, nutrients, water (and a host of other things) to repair these cells, which increase in size when repaired. So the muscles are 'volumizing' and holding more water etc.. This will be reflecting on the scale,, your 15 pounds heavier, your muscles are full, but they haven't added 15 pounds of new muscle tissue (it's the same tissue just volumized)..

Adding actual muscle tissue (adding new cells, not just enlarging current cells) is much more difficult, and there's more to it then micro tears and blood flow.. 5 pounds of pure muscle tissue a year is difficult.. 15 pounds added to your frame with more fluid, blood, nutrients in the muscle is not 15 pounds of added lean muscle mass
My 2 pennies

 

[tury694]

^^^^ exactly

 

[FitnessBro]

Ok, I'm gonna listen to you guys and go the 12 weeks. I still feel like this will foster too much weight gain, but I suppose if this turns out to be true, I can always modify the cycle...

How does this cycle look:

Week 1-12 Deca/Test/Liquidex
300mg/500mg/.25mg EOD

Week 13-14
Test: 500mg
LiquiDex: .5mg EOD

Week 15-18
LiquiAromas: .5mg/.5mg/.25mg/.25mg EOD
LiquiNolva: 40/40/20/20 EOD
LiquiClom: 80/60/30/30 EOD

How much weight do you think will be gained from this cycle?

On a slightly unrelated note,
Tury, why have you continued to post in this thread? You've offered literally zero advice, zero constructive criticism, and argued nothing but ad hominems. I kinda hope you have a shitty weekend, stub your toe really bad, or have to get a new battery for your car when you're in a rush to get somewhere. Nothing too serious, but definitely inconvenient for you in a frustrating way. <3

 

[FitnessBro]

It's very difficult to gain 5 lbs of muscle a year. 15 lbs? 50???

It's funny you say I can't read...I never claimed I gained 50lbs of muscle. Gained 50lbs altogether, was not all lean mass. Third time saying that now.

 

[Roush]

Ok, I'm gonna listen to you guys and go the 12 weeks. I still feel like this will foster too much weight gain, but I suppose if this turns out to be true, I can always modify the cycle...
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You mean you can always modify your DIET.. That's gonna determine weight gain, fat loss etc.. Not the cycle.. Some guys cycle and gain 40 lbs, other guys only 5 lbs, and other guys may even loose weight ALL depends on the diet

 

[FitnessBro]

You mean you can always modify your DIET.. That's gonna determine weight gain, fat loss etc.. Not the cycle.. Some guys cycle and gain 40 lbs, other guys only 5 lbs, and other guys may even loose weight ALL depends on the diet

Got it, man. Thank you.

Does the cycle look legit enough? Is the Deca alright at that level? How about the levels for clomid during the pct?

 

[FitnessBro]

You mean you can always modify your DIET.. That's gonna determine weight gain, fat loss etc.. Not the cycle.. Some guys cycle and gain 40 lbs, other guys only 5 lbs, and other guys may even loose weight ALL depends on the diet

Got it, man. Thank you.

Does the cycle look legit enough? Is the Deca alright at that level? How about the levels for clomid during the pct? I've read mixed doses of it from 100mg+ to being the same as Nolva.

 

[Roush]

Week 1-12 Deca/Test/Liquidex
300mg/500mg/.25mg EOD

Week 13-14
Test: 500mg
LiquiDex: .5mg EOD

Week 15-18
LiquiAromas: .5mg/.5mg/.25mg/.25mg EOD
LiquiNolva: 40/40/20/20 EOD
LiquiClom: 80/60/30/30 EOD
Got it, man. Thank you.

Does the cycle look legit enough? Is the Deca alright at that level? How about the levels for clomid during the pct?

What kind of test are you running..? I'm assuming it's a long ester. If so your pct needs to start about two weeks after your last pin of test NOT the week after. You can run your AI during those two weeks then stop it going into pct.
The deca is a little on the low side, so you may want to consider extending it to 14 weeks not 12.. Then extend the test a week or two longer then when you stop the deca.
You should run hcg 500 iu your entire cycle.

As for your pct, I'll let other guys chime in, because I personally never do a pct and have no real life experience,, just a little bit of head knowledge maybe (I blast and cruise and am on trt)

 

[tbonexl]

There's so many posts telling the op about what's wrong with his cycle but he doesn't seem to get it...