Is this a good stack for an older noob??

[DA.Vegas]

Ok, I have access to Winstrol, 100 50mg pills and sustanon 350. I'm 38, 5'10" 225lbs. I would guess I'm about 25% body fat.

I'm simply tring to get back in shape and would like a little boost since I'm older. I've been doing some P90X and it has been brutal...lol ya I'm that out of shape.

Anyways, can someone please recommend how I can use this as a 1st time cycle and proper dosages.

Thank you.

 

[KaiserSose]

Your not ready to run any cycle, it wont work until your diet and training have been perfected, people think its a magic pill, its not, you will just be dissapointed bro, and Winstrol (winny) is useless, get in better shape do alot of research and when your ready don't stack anything only run test

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Well there is a lot to learn but don't use winstrol. That should only be for pre-show. Its gonna mess up your joints. Read all the joint issues associated with it. You will not any other choice which is worse for joint health. Your 38 so I assume this would concern you.

The higher body fat % you have the worse side effects are going to be too. Try to cut down 5% to 20% 1st. That still isn't really a good level but its a lot better.

Try to read up on "1st cycle test only" threads. That is the best choice imo.

 

[MeatHead96]

Your not ready to run any cycle, it wont work until your diet and training have been perfected, people think its a magic pill, its not, you will just be dissapointed bro, and Winstrol (winny) is useless, get in better shape do alot of research and when your ready don't stack anything only run test

I agree with kaiser and erectus. Steroids are not something to "help you get back in shape". They work for people who have busted theyre ass in the gym and the kitchen for at least a few years. Without already proving you can be consistent with diet and training they will do nothing for you. Also 25 percent is high. I would cut to 18 to 20 percent at the highest first.

 

[DA.Vegas]

Well there is a lot to learn but don't use winstrol. That should only be for pre-show. Its gonna mess up your joints. Read all the joint issues associated with it. You will not any other choice which is worse for joint health. Your 38 so I assume this would concern you.

The higher body fat % you have the worse side effects are going to be too. Try to cut down 5% to 20% 1st. That still isn't really a good level but its a lot better.

Try to read up on "1st cycle test only" threads. That is the best choice imo.

After minor reading before my first post I got the impression the joint pain came from people working out at extreme levels. I'm not trying to get big I'm just trying to get back in shape and lose about 15-20lbs of fat. I'm looking for something that could help me out.

Anyways, according to Kaiser there isn't even a cycle I could even use right now.

 

[MeatHead96]

After minor reading before my first post I got the impression the joint pain came from people working out at extreme levels. I'm not trying to get big I'm just trying to get back in shape and lose about 15-20lbs of fat. I'm looking for something that could help me out.

Anyways, according to Kaiser there isn't even a cycle I could even use right now.

His point is that steroids are not used to get in shape and lose fat. Diet is what does that.

 

[DA.Vegas]

Your not ready to run any cycle, it wont work until your diet and training have been perfected, people think its a magic pill, its not, you will just be dissapointed bro, and Winstrol (winny) is useless, get in better shape do alot of research and when your ready don't stack anything only run test

Well if winstrol is not a "magic pill" than what AS is??

 

[DA.Vegas]

His point is that steroids are not used to get in shape and lose fat. Diet is what does that.

I understand.


I also understand that using the correct AS and stacking it will help you "get back in shape" quicker.

As a noob I was simply asking if sus350 and winstrol helps.

 

[frazier512]

Well if winstrol is not a "magic pill" than what AS is??

lmao. none of it is magic bro. i hate people with the mind set that think they can pop a couple pills and instantly get huge. pisses me off.

 

[DA.Vegas]

lmao. none of it is magic bro. i hate people with the mind set that think they can pop a couple pills and instantly get huge. pisses me off.

Well I know I have to work out to show results. I'm not that clueless. I was merely asking if sus350 and the winnie tabs help with my workout at my stage of training.

 

[KaiserSose]

No steroid burns fat, they are used during a cutting phase to maintain muscle while losing fat, the only thing that is proven successful in losing fat is diet and cardio, if your diet sucks and you run a cycle you may end up with more fat than when you started, and Winstrol (winny) is only used by pros in the single digit bodyfat range. Sounds like you have a decent frame to build on get your diet and training on point and then consider test only for your first cycle, Sustanon (sust) would be fine but for a noob tezt e is better, less injections and only one ester, more experienced guys know how to use the blend of esters in their favor where you do not.

 

[Necrosis]

At 25% bf you don't need gear you need diet advice! either way if you do more research here you'll see that it would serve no purpose and you'd end up wasting gear you could have used at a later time with better knowledge and better shape to get much more pleasing results, work hard, diet and more importantly wait....

 

[Necrosis]

Well I know I have to work out to show results. I'm not that clueless. I was merely asking if sus350 and the winnie tabs help with my workout at my stage of training.

Also I was wondering do you have any other way around using two orals at the same time? Could you possibly purchase a vial at some point for another possible cycle, opting out at least one oral? It'll be allot easier on your liver especially on your first cycle.

 

[nerdalert]

Check out 3j's diet thread and get in contact with him. He will help you get headed in the right direction as far as diet, the workout is up to you. Bust your ass this winter get your bf% down and educate yourself some more on steroids. Maybe by springtime you will have done enough to move to the next level. Good luck..