Is this over training?

[mozzwigan]

I'm getting all my macros etc..

I'm training 5 days a week at the moment,
mon-fri.

Iv'e been doing:

Monday, Chest & Tri's
Tuesday, Back & Bi's
Wednesday:Shoulders & Legs
Thursday: Chest Again because I love training chest!
Friday: A few 1 Rep Max's eg. chest, clean and jerk, Deadlift, Then maybee a few shoulder presses (heavy)

All workouts except Friday consist of 12-15 sets on each muscle group (NO MORE)

Would this be classes as over training? It's just a routine I do, Maybe it's wrong I dunno, I could possibly use some help!

 

[a68rebel]

yes

 

[Drako]

Are you running any cycles?

 

[mozzwigan]

Are you running any cycles?

just started test-e 12wk 500mg a wk, with dbol for a kick start for the first 4 weeks.

But iv'e bin doing this routine now for a few month.

 

[BeastinTheEast]

just started test-e 12wk 500mg a wk, with dbol for a kick start for the first 4 weeks.

But iv'e bin doing this routine now for a few month.

These questions will answer your's!

Have you been making progress on that split so far for the past month? (strength wise/looks wise)

Has your appetite been increasing?

Do you feel constantly tired and how is your sense of well being?

Got an answer for each of those! Let me know man

 

[joliver]

Seems like if you do 15 sets of chest (which includes mostly pressing, i assume) it may increase the likelyhood of overtraining your triceps. Same with back and biceps.

I could be wrong...

 

[mozzwigan]

These questions will answer your's!

Have you been making progress on that split so far for the past month? (strength wise/looks wise)

Has your appetite been increasing?

Do you feel constantly tired and how is your sense of well being?

Got an answer for each of those! Let me know man

Strength has increased for sure!
Appetite has stayed the same
Yea im pretty tired dunno might just be a typical monday! lol

BTW this is the start of wk2 only into my cycle

 

[Sir Anabolic]

12-15 sets for the smaller bodyparts is too much.

 

[MeatHead96]

Def looks overkill to me. Thursday and Friday workouts are unnecessary and likely hindering your progress.

 

[mozzwigan]

Def looks overkill to me. Thursday and Friday workouts are unnecessary and likely hindering your progress.

is 3 times a week enough then mate? maybe 3-4 with Wednesday of?

 

[NewbieT]

I tried training similar to that and with similar results abit tired no apetite gain but definitely looked better and gained strength, I changed it to one day on one day off chest & tri's: 3 max exercises on chest 12-15 reps heavy as I could sets were to failure probably manage 7-8 sets, tri's were 3 excercise same thing. Then a day off then Legs on there own a massive muscle group which needs to be beasted with a maximum of 4 excercise's again 12-15 reps to failure, a day off and back & bi's same thing 3 max excercises heavy as possible to failure, a day off I gave shoulders a day of their own they deserve it!!! Deadlifts to deserve a whole day (Love deadlifting!!!) a day off and then back to chest and tri's!! Simple but effective! apetite has increased strength has, by giving shoulders a day my bench press improved massively. Just thought I'd put my tupence in I read your post and seemed very similar to how I was training but much prefer this way.

 

[mozzwigan]

I tried training similar to that and with similar results abit tired no apetite gain but definitely looked better and gained strength, I changed it to one day on one day off chest & tri's: 3 max exercises on chest 12-15 reps heavy as I could sets were to failure probably manage 7-8 sets, tri's were 3 excercise same thing. Then a day off then Legs on there own a massive muscle group which needs to be beasted with a maximum of 4 excercise's again 12-15 reps to failure, a day off and back & bi's same thing 3 max excercises heavy as possible to failure, a day off I gave shoulders a day of their own they deserve it!!! Deadlifts to deserve a whole day (Love deadlifting!!!) a day off and then back to chest and tri's!! Simple but effective! apetite has increased strength has, by giving shoulders a day my bench press improved massively. Just thought I'd put my tupence in I read your post and seemed very similar to how I was training but much prefer this way.

Funny you say that cause the past few weeks my apatite has decreases a lot, its like im taking fat burners or something haha

 

[Mr P]

I'm getting all my macros etc..

I'm training 5 days a week at the moment,
mon-fri.

Iv'e been doing:

Monday, Chest & Tri's
Tuesday, Back & Bi's
Wednesday:Shoulders & Legs
Thursday: Chest Again because I love training chest!
Friday: A few 1 Rep Max's eg. chest, clean and jerk, Deadlift, Then maybee a few shoulder presses (heavy)

All workouts except Friday consist of 12-15 sets on each muscle group (NO MORE)

Would this be classes as over training? It's just a routine I do, Maybe it's wrong I dunno, I could possibly use some help!

are you working to develop more muscle? or going for strength?

 

[MeatHead96]

is 3 times a week enough then mate? maybe 3-4 with Wednesday of?

3-4 times a week is enough. I don't do more than 4 times a week of weight training. Any more than that my body doesn't recover well enough from and I find it counterproductive.

 

[ski10804life]

i train 6 days a week sometimes 7 (7th being a cardio and abs day) but each muscle group gets 2 days rest, this is over training?!

 

[max_payne]

There's no such a thing as overtraining if u eat right,sleep well,your on gear and let the muscle rest 48-72hours before hiting it again......no.1 myth in bodybuilding....Myth 1: Don***8217;t Train When You***8217;re Sore
Premise
The number one bodybuilding myth seems so logical and has been promulgated so successfully for so long that you may be stunned to find it here***8211;and that***8217;s precisely why it landed in the top spot. If DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness***8211;the ache you typically feel 24 to 48 hours after intense training) indicates that your muscle cells are, in effect, broken down from your previous workout, then why would you want to train again while still sore?
Science
DOMS signifies normal processes in the muscles that are involved in muscle recovery and growth. One study found that when subjects followed an exercise session that caused muscle soreness with another exercise session about two days later***8211;while still sore***8211;their cortisol levels (a catabolic hormone that interferes with muscle growth) were much lower than the first workout and free testosterone was slightly higher. In other words, they were in a better anabolic state. In addition, Japanese researchers induced soreness in the biceps muscles of subjects with heavy negative rep curls, and repeated the exercise two and four days later.
They found no significant differences in max strength, range of motion, muscle soreness and plasma creatine kinase (a chemical indicator of muscle damage) between each exercise bout. In other words, muscle damage wasn***8217;t made worse by the back-to-back training.
Verdict
Research shows that you typically need 48 to 72 hours between workouts to fully recover, and you can then train the same muscles again. This is regardless of whether or not you feel sore.

 

[Smitherine]

I'm with the majority on the board and think you may be over-training but to play devils advocate, I have read articles that there are people that do respond very well to that type of training routine. It's a very small % but perhaps you fall in that category. I sure as hell wish I did...

BTW, I don't know how you train legs and shoulders. After legs, I'm usually just trying to keep from throwing up all over the squat rack let alone jumping to another body part.