Drveejay11
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Jintropin 191 amino acid and Kexing 192?
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cisco-kidd
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Drveejay11 said:age? / IU's day ?/ 5 on-2 off regimine?/ stats? / WHEN did you begin noticing results?
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Age is 30. Started at 3iu/day, 7days per week. Have since bumped it to 6iu per day. Current stats are 5'11", 205lbs, calipers say 9% bf, although I think I'm closer to 10%. Abs are starting to show pretty well, but still have chub handles....grrrr!
As far as noticing results goes, the first 2% bf came off within the first month, with no change in diet or anything for that matter. Then in the following month, results slowed. I then hit a keto diet (keeping cals at maintenance) and dropped about 2% more withing four weeks. Weight stayed pretty much static the entire time. Then in late May I decided to switch gears a little and try to put on a little lean mass. I put on about 5lbs in a month, with bf staying static. I decided to up my dosage last month as I'm coming off the Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) (EQ 600mgs/wk - test 250mgs). I've now been off all Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for over three weeks. Weight and bf are staying constant despite my increase in cals, strength (believe it or not) is continuing to gradually go up as well. I'm very interested in seeing if the GH helps with post cycle therapy (pct). So far, I would say it has, although its too early to say for sure.
Five-year follow-up of growth hormone antibodies in growth hormone deficient children treated with recombinant human growth hormone.
Massa G, Vanderschueren-Lodeweyckx M, Bouillon R.
Department of Paediatrics, University of Leuven, Belgium.
OBJECTIVE: The aim was to investigate the long-term evolution of circulating growth hormone antibodies (GH-AB) during and after treatment with methionyl-recombinant human growth hormone (met-rhGH). DESIGN AND PATIENTS: The investigation was performed on serum samples of 46 growth hormone deficient children, treated for at least 12 months with met-rhGH. Twenty patients had never been treated with hGH (previously untreated patients, Group I). Twenty-six subjects were previously treated with pituitary extracted hGH (treated patients, Group II). MEASUREMENTS: Serum levels of GH-AB were measured by radioimmunoassay using charcoal precipitation of free ligand. RESULTS: Fifteen patients (75%) of Group I and three patients (12%) of Group II developed GH-AB. In 15 GH-AB positive patients the antibodies became detectable during the first year of treatment with met-rhGH. In three patients, however, the GH-AB appeared during the second year. Once present, the GH-AB remained detectable throughout the period of treatment with met-rhGH. In six patients in whom treatment with met-rhGH was stopped, GH-AB levels decreased rapidly. In nine patients in whom treatment with met-rhGH was changed to rhGH, the levels of GH-AB decreased and ultimately became undetectable. In two patients GH-AB remained present during administration of rhGH. No effect of GH-AB on the growth-promoting effect of met-rhGH could be documented, either during the first or during the second year of treatment. CONCLUSIONS: This study confirms the high immunogenicity of met-rhGH, especially in patients not treated earlier with hGH. Once present, the GH-AB remain detectable throughout the period of treatment with met-rhGH. After stopping met-rhGH treatment or changing to rhGH the GH-AB disappear rapidly in most patients. No effect of GH-AB on the growth-promoting effect of rhGH could be documented.
Massa G, Vanderschueren-Lodeweyckx M, Bouillon R.
Department of Paediatrics, University of Leuven, Belgium.
OBJECTIVE: The aim was to investigate the long-term evolution of circulating growth hormone antibodies (GH-AB) during and after treatment with methionyl-recombinant human growth hormone (met-rhGH). DESIGN AND PATIENTS: The investigation was performed on serum samples of 46 growth hormone deficient children, treated for at least 12 months with met-rhGH. Twenty patients had never been treated with hGH (previously untreated patients, Group I). Twenty-six subjects were previously treated with pituitary extracted hGH (treated patients, Group II). MEASUREMENTS: Serum levels of GH-AB were measured by radioimmunoassay using charcoal precipitation of free ligand. RESULTS: Fifteen patients (75%) of Group I and three patients (12%) of Group II developed GH-AB. In 15 GH-AB positive patients the antibodies became detectable during the first year of treatment with met-rhGH. In three patients, however, the GH-AB appeared during the second year. Once present, the GH-AB remained detectable throughout the period of treatment with met-rhGH. In six patients in whom treatment with met-rhGH was stopped, GH-AB levels decreased rapidly. In nine patients in whom treatment with met-rhGH was changed to rhGH, the levels of GH-AB decreased and ultimately became undetectable. In two patients GH-AB remained present during administration of rhGH. No effect of GH-AB on the growth-promoting effect of met-rhGH could be documented, either during the first or during the second year of treatment. CONCLUSIONS: This study confirms the high immunogenicity of met-rhGH, especially in patients not treated earlier with hGH. Once present, the GH-AB remain detectable throughout the period of treatment with met-rhGH. After stopping met-rhGH treatment or changing to rhGH the GH-AB disappear rapidly in most patients. No effect of GH-AB on the growth-promoting effect of rhGH could be documented.
snowwhite zzz
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Jintropin 191 amino acid and Kexing 192
Well, I'm pretty fond of Jintropin's personally but was doing some research on the Kexings for the fact that they are sligthly cheaper. I have a friend who is pretty knowledgeable in field of rHGH coming from China and told him if he could do some research regarding the top labs out their and below is what he emailed me. Now I'm not saying it's true but certaintly something to think about as it could be accurate.
GENESCIENCE JINTROPIN
Jintropin is the most popular rHGH sold in China. According to IMS, an internationally recognized marketing firm, Jintropin is the absolute market leader in China with just over 75% market share.
Jintropin and Lily's Humatrope use a technology called secretion technology which will produce a 191 amino acid sequence growth hormone, with much less E.coli protein contamination and not any side effects associated with injection, such as red painful welts. This technology also has the advantage that growth hormone produced using secretion technology is very stable; it can be stable at 37C or 98 degrees for about 30 days. While growth hormone with192 amino acid sequence is only stable at room temperature for just a few days.
KEXING FITROPIN
To manufacture their rHGH, Fitropin, Kexing is using a technology called inclusion body technology, which can only produce a 192 amino acid growth hormone, very similar to Genentech's old growth hormone, Protropin. Growth hormone produced by inclusion body technology is very easily contaminated by the E.coli protein used to express the HGH. A very common side effect of this contamination lack of product potency due to degradation of the HGH and painful welts at the injection site.
Kexing's growth hormone's first amino acid is Met, while Jintropin and Lily's Humatrope's first amino acid is Phe (which is identical to natural growth hormone produced in your body). Because Kexing's first amino acid is Met, this indicates clearly that Kexing's growth hormone must have 192 amino acids with met being the extra amino acid.
PLEASE NOTE: all the rHGH manufacturers in China, (Kexing, Anke, United) except for GeneScience use the inclusion body technology.
Well, I'm pretty fond of Jintropin's personally but was doing some research on the Kexings for the fact that they are sligthly cheaper. I have a friend who is pretty knowledgeable in field of rHGH coming from China and told him if he could do some research regarding the top labs out their and below is what he emailed me. Now I'm not saying it's true but certaintly something to think about as it could be accurate.
GENESCIENCE JINTROPIN
Jintropin is the most popular rHGH sold in China. According to IMS, an internationally recognized marketing firm, Jintropin is the absolute market leader in China with just over 75% market share.
Jintropin and Lily's Humatrope use a technology called secretion technology which will produce a 191 amino acid sequence growth hormone, with much less E.coli protein contamination and not any side effects associated with injection, such as red painful welts. This technology also has the advantage that growth hormone produced using secretion technology is very stable; it can be stable at 37C or 98 degrees for about 30 days. While growth hormone with192 amino acid sequence is only stable at room temperature for just a few days.
KEXING FITROPIN
To manufacture their rHGH, Fitropin, Kexing is using a technology called inclusion body technology, which can only produce a 192 amino acid growth hormone, very similar to Genentech's old growth hormone, Protropin. Growth hormone produced by inclusion body technology is very easily contaminated by the E.coli protein used to express the HGH. A very common side effect of this contamination lack of product potency due to degradation of the HGH and painful welts at the injection site.
Kexing's growth hormone's first amino acid is Met, while Jintropin and Lily's Humatrope's first amino acid is Phe (which is identical to natural growth hormone produced in your body). Because Kexing's first amino acid is Met, this indicates clearly that Kexing's growth hormone must have 192 amino acids with met being the extra amino acid.
PLEASE NOTE: all the rHGH manufacturers in China, (Kexing, Anke, United) except for GeneScience use the inclusion body technology.
China_Wall
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these threads are bullshit. This has been babbled about for months now. The 192/191 bullshit is something that was made up by the fuckers at Jin Lei (company that makes Jintropin)
end of story
end of story
StoneColdNTO
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China_Wall said:
Sorry but you are wrong.
Check out Kexing's website, they clearly state that they produce 192aa rHGH.
Now that is the end of the story.
what can I say, the story's over
snowwhite zzz
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It is true that Kexing is 192 aa and it can easily cause side effect.
That is the end of the story.
That is the end of the story.
Hi there this is my personal experiment with fitropin i use 6iu every day 8 months ago without notice any result i get check it in labaradory and give me 5iu gh but i didh't test it to see if is 192 aa .
after this i sell the fiew was left and i get norditropin wish now i am on third injection of 4iu and i notise lowering the fat
after this i sell the fiew was left and i get norditropin wish now i am on third injection of 4iu and i notise lowering the fat
