kickstarting??

[tren100]

does kickstarting actually work. i was thinking about kickstarting my test e and deca cycle with test prop? what kinda dossages do u usally use? and does it just raise your test levels before the test e kicks in? thanks

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I wouldn't suggest it for you until you gain more experience.

 

[jcp2]

Running a little prop may be worth it, but the oral kickstart i have personally found to be useless.

 

[tren100]

yeah i was thinking 150mg prop eod for the first 2-3 weeks u think thats enough time for the test ethna to get into my blood?

 

[jcp2]

yeah i was thinking 150mg prop eod for the first 2-3 weeks u think thats enough time for the test ethna to get into my blood?

I personally would use 100mg the first two weeks, than 75, than 50.

 

[tren100]

100mg eod? then 75 then 50 ?

 

[jcp2]

100mg eod? then 75 then 50 ?

100mg eod for the first two weeks
75mg eod for week three
50mg eod for week four

It is a jumpstart, not another cycle.

 

[phatboy]

Running a little prop may be worth it, but the oral kickstart i have personally found to be useless.

why do you say that? rather if its an oral or injectable its for the same purpose. "kickstart".

 

[lil g]

i personally love dbol...but i cannot say anything against the Prop. maybe a cycle in the future i will do this.

 

[jcp2]

why do you say that? rather if its an oral or injectable its for the same purpose. "kickstart".

Because, IMO, and it is my opinion, most people don't gain any muscle from 4 weeks of dbol. I have run cycles with dbol, and the same without, and they are very similar. I can gain 5-10lbs in the first four weeks of 600 cyp and 400 deca, and so should most if eating and working out is on cue. People tend to be in love with the instant gratification of dbol, especially those with low bodyfat and low muscle, because they tend to carry alot of water and don't look like complete shit like the softer individuals. If i was ever going to use dbol again, i would run it for 10 weeks with 150mg prop eod, and 100mg of NPP eod, 15mg dbol ed. But since my HDL would probably be in the teens after that i will never run it. With suck a low dose of prop all you are really doing is getting levels up a little quicker. That is why i say a low dose, lol. Most people run huge amounts of dbol and will most likely have a huge androgen crash mid cycle when they come off.

 

[jcp2]

i personally love dbol...but i cannot say anything against the Prop. maybe a cycle in the future i will do this.

19 year olds are my exact reasoning for what i said above, it is not a knock but the truth. They usually fall into the low muscle, low bodyfat skinny group. I personally think dbol is a shit drug for quality gains, and people only run it for instant gratification. I personally don't know you so i can't comment on why you like it, i know a few vets who are fucking jacked and love the stuff.

 

[phatboy]

gotcha brotha. yeah i guess its up to the person. its more of a mental thing for me.

 

[lil g]

19 year olds are my exact reasoning for what i said above, it is not a knock but the truth. They usually fall into the low muscle, low bodyfat skinny group. I personally think dbol is a shit drug for quality gains, and people only run it for instant gratification. I personally don't know you so i can't comment on why you like it, i know a few vets who are fucking jacked and love the stuff.

always gotta pick on me.

 

[jcp2]

always gotta pick on me.

I have been saying this about dbol for two years now, don't take it personally. I even said i don't know you so i can't commment.

 

[lil g]

I have been saying this about dbol for two years now, don't take it personally. I even said i don't know you so i can't commment.

haha, its all good...there must be a reason why u say what u say...you have more experience under your belt...

 

[Slayer]

I love kickstarting and ending a cycle with prop when I am using a longer ester for the cycle. My last TestE/Deca cycle I ran the prop 100mg eod for weeks 1-3 and 9-10. I stopped the TestE and Deca (cypionate) at week 8. Then I start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 days after my last prop shot. The idea of tapering as suggested above, probably makes more sense.