Kigtropin buyer beware!

[MattPorter]

No shit, my ass wouldn't have felt like it was getting f'kd quite as hard if there was at least something in the vials. As it was it was like no lube and no dinner, at least it was found out and is getting fixed.

dude - TRUST ME,,, I understand

Evil bastards who did this!

However -- the more we all come together like ZEEK said and get tests done etc...

The more fear is struck into the scam bags heads about pulling a shameless scam ever again...

Although the conniving bastards could slip peps in there which MAY trigger gh serum increase or des igf1 which would make a igf-1 test positive...

I'd be curious to know if anyone has done ghrp2 + mod grf-129 30 mins prior to taking a GH serum test???

-Matt

 

[Phatbastard]

Matt Peep Zeeks GH vs Pep thread I have! I think I got bunk shit for peps lol see its not just the GH guys that will get u. Zeek is going to have a test done on friday as well unless he gets scared of the needle.

 

[MattPorter]

Matt Peep Zeeks GH vs Pep thread I have! I think I got bunk shit for peps lol see its not just the GH guys that will get u. Zeek is going to have a test done on friday as well unless he gets scared of the needle.

What a perfect industry like the cult of Bodybuilding to scam the hell out of people?

They know we all are essentially addicted or obsessed with cutting edge products and will fork over money even when we have other priorities more important...

They know this niche is just perfect for scamming ---- seriously getting sick to my stomach just thinking about this?

We all just want to transform and break personal goals.....just do the right thing and put some real product in the damn bottles....

-Matt

 

[stevonov]

Good and bad news... the bad news, the Kigs I have are garbage (ink stamped 20110715) and the test prove it conclusively. Good news my source is working with me to refund or replace, havent finalized anything yet but they fully accept the tests and responsibility and are willing to do it right.

And now the proof, tests taken 2hours 8 minutes after SubQ administration of 10iu of "Kigtropin" after a month or so of 5iu daily:

Same batch 20110715 blue top kigs no vacumn seal in puck form. Friend bought blue tops and kigs one kit each before stocking up after two days of kig 5iu 4hours before test hgh levels higher than normal but still low at 3.4 and igf 1 levels not high at all at 182 ill have him post levels after three days of blue tops but maybe should have stayed on kigs longer before test? Kind of weird that your igf went up and not your hgh yet mine seemed to do the opposite guess every kit is going to be hit or miss hope the blues are better

 

[YOLO]

Week 3 of the Kigs I got, bumping up the dose to 5IU a day. Not really getting sides of sorts but not exactly sure what to be looking for either. Switched to the Greentops today to try out. Did 5IU & I got these red (wouldn't really say welts) but def irritated skin marks. A little sore to the touch. Used same BW as I did the Kigs. I find it strange one would give me an irritation & the other wouldn't. But hey, shits from China who knows. Any input?

 

[rigby]

hi am newb here have been reading this thread.
well here's my experience with k. i ordered 5 kits of kigs from him on 6th of dec, he sent me tracking number on 7th dec. i received kits on 20th and started running them at 10iu a day from the 26th dec...after 10 days or so i didn`t really notice any sides no water cts or anything.

mine are the satmped 20110715 batch that everyone was raving about and from k who everyone was saying had the legit ones... and all the hype was "you don't get hardly any water from these or any other sides cos they are like pharm grade bla blah blah. so i still thought i was good.

so even though i was yet to see anything positive, i keep reading all the hype and seeing as they are so cheap too, i think i better go order some more before they run out! so like an idiot i go and order another 5 kits at beginning of jan just before all the people start coming out slating the kigs from dec.
in fact the day that i go out and WU the money, i come home and start reading all the complaints coming out!

so i email k asking what is going on as a lot of people are now complaining about his recent kigs and i'm concerned about my pending order. he sends me back an email saying my latest order has already shipped and don't worry it was only a few bad kits that went out and he has just sent me the new batch (batch no. 20110901) and these ones are tested and deffo legit.

so now i am wondering if the ones i am on are bunk...and if the ones that are coming are bunk!

anyway i decide to keep running the 20110715 ones i got in dec and get an igf1 test after 4 weeks on them.
so i got my test done on 23rd of jan results after 10 iu per day from the 26th dec and test was taken 2 hours after my shot on day of test (if that makes any diff). it came back within normal range for my age. admittedly to the high end of normal but within normal. I don't have baseline figure, but was very disappointed at this result after 10ius a day.

after test on 23rd jan i switched straight onto new batch from k(20110901) and am gonna run these at 10iu a day for 4 weeks and go back for another test. so far same again no sides whatsoever.

i emailed k with my igf1 tests and explaining that i felt and saw nothing from the kits he sent in dec and he emailed back saying he will not resend as there were no bad kits in his factory at time he sent mine.

well i never emailed him with wu payment details until 7th dec, so he couldn't have sent mine till 8th. and from reading across the boards i don't think i have heard of anyone getting good kigs from him in the whole of dec and even further back possibly.

i still have every email saved between me and k, tracking nos, wu info all saved if anyone wants me to verify.

i have attached the igf1 test . it is in nmol(cos i am in UK) as opposed to ng/dl but i know the conversion is x7.65 to get the equivalent ng/dl reading.

sorry for such long winded post!!
but wanted to get this out. i don't think k will be replacing all bad kits...if you are a bit of 'name' on a board probably get reimbursed. if not (like me) you're probably screwed.

I will report back with igf test for new batch he sent me in 3 weeks or so.

 

[Zeek]

You sir have been injecting BUNK! as you already know.

What I want to know is he going to make good on these 10 kits that he sent you that are obvious junk?

 

[MattPorter]

These are bunk.....i just saw a gh serum test read 0.1 after 10iu......

That is lowest of the low.

Sick bastards.

-Matt

 

[rigby]

Well he says not, i sent him copy of igf test but He says there were no bad kits when mine were sent.
I sent him another email and forwarded previous wu payment email so he could see mine couldn't have been sent till at least 8th of dec. and he has not replied since ,that was few days ago now.
Tbh I can't be arsed chasing him any more. Just wanted to put this up cos all I'm reading everywhere now is what a stand up guy he is and how is making things right with everyone.

I'm not gonna claim the new batch he sent are deffo bunk until I get another igf test done in few weeks...but I will post up results then

 

[rigby]

Apologies I think I put wrong date in my 1st post. I sent him wu payment details on 7th dec so he couldn't have sent before then. As i said I have all emails saved so can forward to anyone for verification.

 

[Phatbastard]

Not cool at all

 

[rigby]

These are bunk.....i just saw a gh serum test read 0.1 after 10iu......

That is lowest of the low.

Sick bastards.

-Matt

Do you know if test was for new batch 20110901 ?

 

[Zeek]

Well he says not, i sent him copy of igf test but He says there were no bad kits when mine were sent.
I sent him another email and forwarded previous wu payment email so he could see mine couldn't have been sent till at least 8th of dec. and he has not replied since ,that was few days ago now.
Tbh I can't be arsed chasing him any more. Just wanted to put this up cos all I'm reading everywhere now is what a stand up guy he is and how is making things right with everyone.

I'm not gonna claim the new batch he sent are deffo bunk until I get another igf test done in few weeks...but I will post up results then

Listen bro you bought 10 kits of shit!! Stay on his ass! He needs to make right on this and if he doesn't I get a lot of people messaging me about GH and him in particular on this board and on the board he is mainly on. While I won't post shit on a source in the open I will pass it on down the chain that his stuff can't be trusted Keep me updated and let me know how this goes.

Apologies I think I put wrong date in my 1st post. I sent him wu payment details on 7th dec so he couldn't have sent before then. As i said I have all emails saved so can forward to anyone for verification.

You kits fall in line with the bad kits. This is the deal guys:

He got hit with a SHIT LOAD of guys wanting refunds and he can only cover so much. Think about it at some point he just can;t cover anymore due to funds. this is how good sources turn bad sometimes, they don't do it on purpose but shit happens and they can;t cover the losses and vanish. If the factory is making good on it then all will be well but if he got dicked he will run out of cash to cover things soon! if not already out

This is why I stressed time was so important in my earlier posts on this. I've seen this game play out before

 

[Zeek]

Do you know if test was for new batch 20110901 ?

Batch numbers don't mean anything with these labeled generics. They toss HGH into boxes with those numbers until they run out of boxes. Not until they run out of said GH in a certain production date. The box and labels are the sources and not from any nmanufacturer

Go by when received since this isn;t pharm grade gh we are talking about. Think of these GH variants as UGL gh, although due to the complicated natiure of GH any good stuff isn't being made in any ones kitchen

 

[rigby]

Batch numbers don't mean anything with these labeled generics. They toss HGH into boxes with those numbers until they run out of boxes. Not until they run out of said GH in a certain production date. The box and labels are the sources and not from any nmanufacturer

Go by when received since this isn;t pharm grade gh we are talking about. Think of these GH variants as UGL gh, although due to the complicated natiure of GH any good stuff isn't being made in any ones kitchen

well i'm gonna try emailing k re the ones he sent me in dec again, resend him igf test etc and i will post back with his response if any.

the recent ones labelled (20110901) i received from him around 20th this month, again i have felt no sides from these as yet after week or so at 10iu, but i will hold off from making any claims about these until i get another igf test.

these ones are deffo different batch as the puck is around double the thickness of the previous stamped kits from dec(not that this means a lot) but just pointing that out. Also looks like they were rushed out as there were no cardboard inserts like ones he sent in dec and labels were all over the place(much neater on dec ones).

i will update whatever outcome.

 

[ChrisWho?]

I had noticed within a couple weeks K started turning people down when infact the kits they hard were shit. Zeek is right and he probably can't cover it. I wouldn't read too much into what the big names say on the other site with Kami making good etc. as it seems most are taken care of by the sponsors.

Rigby there are quite a few in the same position that have sent igf tests in and were turned down. It's too bad but what can you do other than find another source.

 

[rigby]

ok quick update. I have received an email from K saying he has now checked my order and it qualifies for replacements.

He apologised and said reason for mix up was that some of my previous emails had been filtered out and he hadn't seen them.

He says he will ship my replacements around 5th of FEB.

big thanks to Zeek and everyone else on this thread and will keep you updated on how everything pans out.

 

[Zeek]

ok quick update. I have received an email from K saying he has now checked my order and it qualifies for replacements.

He apologised and said reason for mix up was that some of my previous emails had been filtered out and he hadn't seen them.

He says he will ship my replacements around 5th of FEB.

big thanks to Zeek and everyone else on this thread and will keep you updated on how everything pans out.

Rigby you were in the right and I'm glad to see K realized it also. Said individual is actually a good guy which I believe got screwed by the factory. He himself didn't set out to sell fake hgh as is the case with so many others that got bad stuff in DEC. Those manufacturers in China didn't realize that the steroid crew buying their GH is smart enough to regularly check IGF and serum GH levels. Many of us now do this as common practice with each new batch we buy.

For anyone else check the date on this post and be sure the window is about to close on exchanges! Move it or lose out.

 

[erix]

It really sucks that one of the most expensive things and one of the best is also so commonly fake)bunk!)....Im waiting for Z to get his back in stock ,at least they are real!

 

[b_saan]

It really sucks that one of the most expensive things and one of the best is also so commonly fake)bunk!)....Im waiting for Z to get his back in stock ,at least they are real!

He had problems too. A GH source is only as good as your bloodtests from the last order you placed. No one knows what the next order will bring, though Z does stand behind his orders pretty well in my experience.