Kinda confused about cycle.

[Eisaggeleas]

Hello people.I am currently finished planning my first cycle which will be like this: 500mg of test e-per week/eod, Anavar (var) starting at 30mg-ending 50mg/day and prov 25mg/day.This is going to be my first cycle, so i dont know how to pin etc.I am kinda lucky though becuse in my hood a man owns a supplement store.He is european champion at BB couple of times and his dudes also.So, i asked him about my cycle etc.I dont wanna be sarcastic but this man told me that a "good and solid cycle" has always a test base (ok i knew that no problem) but the length sould be 5 weeks "on" and 3 weeks "off" (PCT i can guess?).So my question is this: I know that test e kicks in usually at 5-6 weeks, so if i go off the cycle would not take advantage of the muscle gains of test the same as if i continue pinning atleast 12 weeks.So, how this guy is a champion (waba or smth like that) and pinns like this? Is it right and usual?.I am kinda curious to hear from you guyz because i am confused.Off the record i asked him that the reccomended pinn for test e is 12-13 weeks and he as laughing like a shit without telling me why.He only told me that in USA medical staff is better than in my country( Excuse why not to pinn 12 weeks?).Tomorrow i closed and appointment to talk about my cycle etc but i need your opinion guyz...Really i am confused what to do..Thanks a lot.

 

[juiceyou321]

Yeah, 5-6 weeks is just not enough in my opinion to get the results from test E. Take it to 10 at least. Like you said, its gonna be a few weeks before you even start making gains off it. He sounds like an moron.

 

[donjob]

on5 weeks off for 3? that sounds extremely dumb. stay away from this nut job. and don't run Anavar (var) or prov for your first cycle. just 500mg per week of test e for 12 weeks is fine.

 

[Trust_]

5 weeks is way too short. Test E takes 4 weeks to actually kick in... To stop at 5 weeks is nonsense. Do 12 to 14 weeks, or even 10 but no less imo

 

[crazyfmike]

I remember the ON/OFF cycle protocol from the early 80's. That is old shit, obsolete and replaced.

Three compounds first cycle (two orals) is fucking ridiculous advice.

 

[Eisaggeleas]

"Prov does not hurt your liver.You will take it to raise your libido and to have a more cut look while on Anavar (var) and test.Also it works as a SERM in case of gyno occurs" that i was told from this champion.I cant understand why in hell told me to be 5 on/3off.In 80's this worked? Tbh, as far as i can see from his appereance he knows what to but whatever he claims is against all threads are written here....

 

[grind4it]

This should tell you something.

CFM is right. Dude, running three compounds for your first cycle is a bad idea. It has nothing to do with what the compounds do or if they are hard on the liver. The fact is if you cycle three compounds for your fist run and you develop unwanted/unexpected side effects you will have no way of knowing what to change or drop.

I know you want to jump in the game. We have all been where you are now wanting to run any and everything and swell up like Arnold in you Avatar. Truth is bro if you don't learn more you will make mistakes that can hurt you.

I would start with a 10-12 week cycle of Test C or E pin 200 or 250mg on Monday morning and pin 200 or 250mg on Thursday evening. I would make sure to have all of my post cycle therapy (pct) gear before I ever start my cycle. If you eat right and train on this cycle, I promise you will see some great results.

Good luck,
Grind

 

[Eisaggeleas]

This should tell you something.



CFM is right. Dude, running three compounds for your first cycle is a bad idea. It has nothing to do with what the compounds do or if they are hard on the liver. The fact is if you cycle three compounds for your fist run and you develop unwanted/unexpected side effects you will have no way of knowing what to change or drop.

I know you want to jump in the game. We have all been where you are now wanting to run any and everything and swell up like Arnold in you Avatar. Truth is bro if you don't learn more you will make mistakes that can hurt you.

I would start with a 10-12 week cycle of Test C or E pin 200 or 250mg on Monday morning and pin 200 or 250mg on Thursday evening. I would make sure to have all of my post cycle therapy (pct) gear before I ever start my cycle. If you eat right and train on this cycle, I promise you will see some great results.

Good luck,
Grind

Yes test e 500mg/week for a first solid cycle is good imo.Yes i have Nolvadex for post cycle therapy (pct) and Proviron also.This champ told me that i can take also 20mg of Nolva during cycle.Is it true?.I also have Retin-A cream for acne and shampoo in case i am prone to mpb (no one in family of my mother and father had ever issues with mpb-i also took proviron 50mg/day for 1 month before 2 months and i know DHT is higly androgenic and didnt face any hair loss issues).