liftingbig123
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CJC, GHRP are a bit better when it comes to an overall pep, and they are less costly than running GH
Better in what way? Fat loss? Sleep? etc?
CJC, GHRP are a bit better when it comes to an overall pep, and they are less costly than running GH
I'll be in PCt before long and clean. It will be peptide time followed by blood work which I will openly post here. Good or bad results, it's getting posted.
Better in what way? Fat loss? Sleep? etc?
works same as GH, benefits are the same as GH fat loss, deep sleep a better libido and an overall pep.
Ya im getting my blood work done tomorow, been off for 6 weeks cause my cholestorol was shit and liver enzymes were elevated pretty high so im seeing where they r now
This is the kind of valuable feed back I'm looking for! Anyone on the other side of the spectrum as far as opinion that has run both GH and peps separate?
Can you clarify what you are on now and what tests you will be having?
I was on Test 400mg per week and Tren Ace 100mg EOD and i did it for 7 weeks and it transformed my body. Tren is the shit and also my diet was perfect i dont think i missed one meal. I threw in oral Winstrol (winny) at 50mg ED for two weeks then bumped it to 100mg for one week because some photos i was taking and that screwed my HDL to zero and liver enzymes shot up. Therefore i came off imediatly and been off for 6 weeks now and getting a full blood panel except for hormones
I was on Test 400mg per week and Tren Ace 100mg EOD and i did it for 7 weeks and it transformed my body. Tren is the shit and also my diet was perfect i dont think i missed one meal. I threw in oral Winstrol (winny) at 50mg ED for two weeks then bumped it to 100mg for one week because some photos i was taking and that screwed my HDL to zero and liver enzymes shot up. Therefore i came off imediatly and been off for 6 weeks now and getting a full blood panel except for hormones
I found IGF-1 tests for $42
It's going to come down to some testing at least a few times for this old dog.
You either feel like you are getting HGH like gains or not from these is my opinion. I'm sure not all suppliers are putting out a good product also.
Basically with these, you need the combination of ghrh and ghrp to be truly effective. A ghrp on its own will cause a spike of gh, but a ghrh will not do much unless taken during a natural pulse which is pretty hard to determine.
But when taken together they cause a good spike of gh that peaks at about 1 hour then declines.
I personally use mod grf and any ghrp. All of these were thought to reatch saturation at 100mcg but ghrp2 and Ipamorelin can be dosed higher. Ghrp 2&6 are usually the cheapest.
So I typically dose mod grf between 100-150 mcg 3 x a day with a ghrp. With ghrp2 I dose between 100-400mcg. Higher doses can produce sides. Ghrp6 between 100-200mcg. Hexarilin I dose at 400mcg with mod grf pwo. Ipam 100-400mcg.
So the combination three times a day to create pulses of gh. 100mcg of each is a good spot. This is creating a natural elevated pulse of gh. I use this even while on gh and especially if I have off days from gh.
These can also be used as a pct of sorts for gh users. If splitting doses and doing it every day for extended periods of time you likely won't have natural pulses but using the peptides forces pituitary to release gh.
You were doing the GHRP-6 by itself?
interesting what did you notice from your over all experience with it?
I found IGF-1 tests for $42
It's going to come down to some testing at least a few times for this old dog.
You either feel like you are getting HGH like gains or not from these is my opinion. I'm sure not all suppliers are putting out a good product also.
Been reading and reading about these peptides. Sounds like a solid alternative to gear although, I am going to run my first cycle (test e 600/wk x 12) in Feb. What would be really helpful is a chart. It gets to the point where I think I have a basic grasp of what does what and then some folks use abbreviations and then all I see is numbers and letters...numbers and letters. Maybe a knowledgeable, and bored, member can put together a chart in simple terms, as Mr. Zeek suggested, which lays out the most common peps. I think it would be extremely helpful to have it all in one reference. Something like
ABC 123 - is this - does this-
DEF 456 - is this - does this - works well with this
You get the picture. Maybe a bit much to ask but I know I am not the only one that gets a little frustrated trying to "get it".
Been reading and reading about these peptides. Sounds like a solid alternative to gear although, I am going to run my first cycle (test e 600/wk x 12) in Feb. What would be really helpful is a chart. It gets to the point where I think I have a basic grasp of what does what and then some folks use abbreviations and then all I see is numbers and letters...numbers and letters. Maybe a knowledgeable, and bored, member can put together a chart in simple terms, as Mr. Zeek suggested, which lays out the most common peps. I think it would be extremely helpful to have it all in one reference. Something like
ABC 123 - is this - does this-
DEF 456 - is this - does this - works well with this
You get the picture. Maybe a bit much to ask but I know I am not the only one that gets a little frustrated trying to "get it".
Detailed information about the GH releasing peptides can be found elsewhere, but using them is very simple.
Basic Protocol
- Mod GRF @ 100 mcg.
- a GHRP @ 100 mcg. You have 3 options here:
- GHRP-2 - this releases the most GH, but it can raise cortisol and prolactin levels (still within the normal range, though)
- GHRP-6 - this causes hunger as a side effect
- Ipamorelin - this is the GHRP with the least sides, but it doesn't release as much GH as GHRP-2
Do this 2 or 3 times a day on an empty stomach and don't eat for 30 minutes after.
Reconstitution
This might seem like a daunting task, but it's actually very simple. YouTube has videos showing how to do it. I use 1 ml of BW (bacteriostatic water) for 2 mg of Mod GRF and 2.5 ml of BW for 5 mg of GHRP-2. That means that 0.05 ml of each will give me 100 mcg of each.
Needles
Slin pins are what you want, either 29 gauge or 30 gauge. As for how to do a subcutaneous injection, there's instructional videos on YouTube (search for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) injection tutorial).
That info is enough to get you started.
Detailed information about the GH releasing peptides can be found elsewhere, but using them is very simple.
Basic Protocol
- Mod GRF @ 100 mcg.
- a GHRP @ 100 mcg. You have 3 options here:
- GHRP-2 - this releases the most GH, but it can raise cortisol and prolactin levels (still within the normal range, though)
- GHRP-6 - this causes hunger as a side effect
- Ipamorelin - this is the GHRP with the least sides, but it doesn't release as much GH as GHRP-2
Do this 2 or 3 times a day on an empty stomach and don't eat for 30 minutes after.
Reconstitution
This might seem like a daunting task, but it's actually very simple. YouTube has videos showing how to do it. I use 1 ml of BW (bacteriostatic water) for 2 mg of Mod GRF and 2.5 ml of BW for 5 mg of GHRP-2. That means that 0.05 ml of each will give me 100 mcg of each.
Needles
Slin pins are what you want, either 29 gauge or 30 gauge. As for how to do a subcutaneous injection, there's instructional videos on YouTube (search for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) injection tutorial).
That info is enough to get you started.