let's talk about slin

donjob

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intelligent posts from knowledgeable users only please. no opinions, and no posts stating how dangerous it is. let's talk about how to use it, when to use it, diet, etc.

a couple questions i have are
1) is there any reason to use it every day as opposed to just workout days only?
2) is it ok to use just once a day, say pre or post workout instead of 3 times daily.
3) best length of cycle
4) let's say you want to shoot 5 iu preworkout. how do you measure this? how many iu are in 1ml of let's say humolin r. and how many 1ml vials would you need for a 4 week cycle of injecting 5 iu once a day?
 
definitely agree^. Shouldn't even be considering slin until you know everything about it inside and out. If you have to ask basic searchable questions such as yours, then you're far from ready to use this stuff. This isn't test or dbol. You fuck this shit up and you can end up in a casket.
 
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definitely agree^. Shouldn't even be considering slin until you know everything about it inside and out. If you have to ask basic searchable questions such as yours, then you're far from ready to use this stuff. This isn't test or dbol. You fuck this shit up and you can end up in a casket.

this subject is not talked about much on this forum ... and i always wondered why ... but, now i know .

please listen to the people above .. and most likely below too
 
I really don't like discussing slin all that much because of the dangers involved, my protocol with slin is used with HGH, IGF, and AAS. I've tried many many protocols over the years, and this seems to yield the best results for ME. I DO NOT recommend anyone who has never used slin to try this...if you don't know how it all works or used it before, ignore the rest of this post.

I've used slin pre-work out, but have found a slightly better protocol.

You may have seen it posted during your research. I can't take all the credit for this protocol, I had help from others aside from my own research and experiences.

Although most protocols call for pre work out injections, but if you toss GH and IGF into the mix, things change a bit. I know most guys pin sub-q, but not in this case where GH and IGF come into play.

For now, I have found that less is more. I highly recommend using a minimal schedule for all short chain sequence peptides, which include igf, insulin and even gh. I recommend using no more than 4 days per week, 3 days is fine, but no more than 4. The reason for this is that we are trying to prevent cell over-saturation and closure. All three products should be used in a similar manner.

The protocol is as follows; inject all products POST workout, preferably after training large muscle groups which cause the most glycogen depletion, hence providing faster uptake of peptides. A sample layout is to inject Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

Immediately post-workout inject 10-15iu of growth hormone IM, using a insulin pin and inject in any small muscle group such as delts, triceps, or biceps. Wait 20 minutes for the half-life clearance and conversion to igf to begin its sequence from the growth hormone and then inject a small dose of igf to create a synergistic super charge of the conversion process. I would recommend no more than 30mcg at this time. 10 minutes later you will take Humalog insulin only, and inject 5iu. I recommend starting with 5iu because Humalog has a very rapid onset and is easy to control with sugar. In conjunction with igf, you will be hyper-sensitive to insulin so start small and slowly work your way up to a maximum dose of 12iu post-workout. You will want to have around 80-100 grams of simple sugars such as dextrose and grape juice and an additional 60 grams of whey protein at the same time as your insulin. You will then eat another moderate glycemic index meal one hour after your high glycemic shake.

The reason for the high dose growth hormone is to take what would normally be your one week intake of gh and spread it out into 4 equal doses, injected pwo. This will create a truly anabolic rich environment and you will also benefit from full uptake due to your pwo depleted state.

So there is my post-workout regime, 4 days per week. For most lifters, this protocol will be sufficient for growth. For someone with at least 6 months of gh use, 5 or more cycles of insulin and who no longer responds to typical igf protocols, the following regime may be followed: In addition to the above outline post-workout method, you may add additional doses of igf as well as insulin on the same day as your post-workout injection.

I would highly recommend you take 15mcg igf an additional two times per day. By taking less igf more often you will prevent cell over-saturation as well as receptor down-regulation. Creating a cell rich environment that saturates the cells infrequently will target massive cell proliferation. In addition you will take insulin 20 minutes after the igf on those 2 additional injections creating an anabolic rich environment that will last all day, 4 days per week.

For a sample protocol for someone that works out after work, I would recommend you do the following: Take 15mcg upon rising in the morning, followed by 10iu Humulin R or Humalog 20 minutes later. Immediately eat a carbohydrate rich meal with quality protein and low fat such as bananas, oatmeal and egg whites.

For lunch, take another 15mcg igf with 10iu insulin and have another moderate glycemic carbohydrate meal and protein with minimal fats. Follow the above listed pwo protocol to complete your three time injection schedule which will be used four times per week.

Out of all the protocols I've toyed with, the latter is the most effective. I didn't come up with this by myself, I've combined different parts of several protocols together....this one just happens to work best for me. Some follow a same protocol but use it 3 days a week. Been there and done that....I can get away doing this 4X a week.

I know many of you have different protocols and may not agree with mine....but I've tried maybe 1/2 a dozen methods and this method is by far the most effective FOR ME!!!




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wow victor, thanks for actually having something to contribute to this thread. as for the rest of you, you just answered exactly how i said not to. by saying it's dangerous, you're not ready, etc. I can say those exact same things if someone else posted these questions because that's what i know about it, it's dangerous and "you are not ready". coming here spewing that doesn't mean i know 2 shits about it either. hence the reason for the questions. did i post that I had some humulin and i'm gonna start pinning it tomorrow, hopefully someone gets back to me by then, if not fuck it i'll do it anyways? no. no shit i'm not ready for it, and i'm still researching the fuck out of it. i don't put anything in my body without knowing exactly what the fuck it is and what it does. there's not a whole hell of a lot of info out there regarding this subject so i thought i would post these basic questions and get the ball rolling so that there would be a thread people can refer to that let's you know about insulin a-z. apparently you people can't grasp the concept.
 
No prob bro. I spent many many months doing research before I started using insulin....I even had my MD (who is my closest friend) help me out with a few pointers. I only started using slin and GH after I felt I reached my max genetic potential.

I had planned on going pro many years back, and like most....I wanted to see how much further I could push my body. I never went pro, got stuck doing work for the military and never got the chance. For the most part, I usually tell guys that if you have not reached your max genetic potential or have no plans on going for your pro card, avoid the slin. It can be used safely if you understand ALL the aspects of the science...but it's best to have a senior vet walk you through it all...and an MD if if you find one willing to help. Far too much "bro science" on the subject out there on the web.

I admire you attitude and your respect for all the dangers involved. Hope I helped with some of your questions.





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definetly man, i know there aren't many on these boards that mess with the stuff but hopefully the ones who do will chime in what they know and create a thread people interested in the subject can come and read to get a better understanding. Sometimes posts like these can help you to know the basics enough to even know what the hell you are trying to research. I'm not planning on running slin any time soon, if ever, but if i do i want to know everything i can. and no i'm not a body builder either nor am i going for my pro card. More into powerlifting and functional strength my self, size gained is a great side effect. how is slin as far as strength gains go?
 
Not that I'm looking for a source (I'm not, hell I don't even have plans to use it) but where do you guys get slin? Like, I haven't seen many UGL that offer it (or maybe I'm not looking hard enough), so do you guys generally go with pharma stuff?
 
Please research slin inside and out before you do it. On the other hand, its only unsafe if you are a dumbass about it. Get in your carbs correctly, keep some glucose tabs or soda with you incase of an emergency and you will be OK. Start low. Slin is very good for recovery. The reason its so anabolic is because its super anti-catobolic.

Insulin is over the counter medication, except humalog which you need a prescription for. There are a few others you need a script for but I dont know the names off hand.

here are some good informational threads:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/advice-with-insulin-on-cycle-m4540587.aspx

http://www.steroidworld.com/forums/archived-greats/7285-insulin-101-newbie-s-razorripped.html

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...lding-articles/9-monsters-insulin-primer.html

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...insulin-most-anabolic-hormone-part-1-2-a.html

I think a couple of those threads has repeating information but there are good tips in all those.

Typical cycle is 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off.

Yes using it pre or post once a day is great. I think thats a great way to start out.
 
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thanks for the info bcopp. yeah i wouldn't feel too comfortable running it pre workout with the chance of going hypo during a workout, even if my diet was spot on. you never know.
 
Hi Don,

Thanks for starting this thread; a lot of questions I have had about slin were answered. That being said, I started researching insulin about a year ago. I came to the conclusion that i am not at the point in my lifting career where I need to add it yet. You have your own goals and I have mine we both know this. The other guys who responded are just trying to protect you. I hope you obtained some more information and continue to research, post what you find out please!
 
For those in the US, if you don't have a script for Humolog....you can order it from several Canadian pharmacies. Customs will not seize slin. I've used a few in the past, but I get taken care of locally now so I don't have to bother ordering it on line. Some states will give slin to you OTC, but nothing fast acting.




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ordering it online also tends to be far cheaper than walking into CVS or Wal-Mart .. atleast for me here in South Florida it is ..
 
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