metalstorm
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I was mistaken to call it an FSH. Though, I could have sworn when I took it in the 80's that it was considered an FSH. My mistake on the terminology.
LH/FSH Question
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I was mistaken to call it an FSH. Though, I could have sworn when I took it in the 80's that it was considered an FSH. My mistake on the terminology.
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edogger
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The alpha subunit of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and FSH so are identical, so they are similar, but not similar enough as a complete protein to bind to the FSH receptor.
Its also shares this characteristic with Thyroid stimulating hormone.
Perhaps you got Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) confused with HMG...
metalstorm
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This is what my endo was referring to. If your body wants to be at 900 and you are only producing 300, then theoretically you could supplement 550 and still have your LH production. But I think at my age my body probably wants to be at 400 to 450.
But I think my body just doesn't want a 900. But the example the endo gave me was like 25mg a week before suppression. He wanted to take me off testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) cold turkey anyway because he thought 300 was fine but my last doctor thought it was low. I moved and was stuck with new endo.
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edogger
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I guess it really depends on how long youve had low test for. If youve been at 400 for years then chances are alot of your AR's in your pituitary/hypothalamus have downgraded and that you wont be able to operate at the top end of the range any more without shutdown. Youve basically esablished a new homeostasis at a lower test level. If youve only had low test for a short time youre more apt to get away with it.
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I would love to hear more on clomid and HCG... I am still not quite sure the difference as it relates to LH levels. Since my levels are so low, it was recommended to me to take Clomid for 30 days along with the HCG. Assuming that is because the Clomid raises the LH levels, won they go back down when the clomid stops?
I would like to hear from some of you vets on taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Clomid at the same time...
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edogger
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its pretty pointless.
clomid stimulates LH, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is LH. If youre taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) then youre essentially shutting down natural LH so it cant be stimulated.
The clomid might stimulate some fsh which will lead to spermatogenesis but only if youre not shut down.
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ok so.. in order to stimulate the LH and get those levels up... would you then need to stop taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and take just Clomid?
I guess I am trying to determine that if I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and my LH is basicaly zero... should I be doing anything about it or is that low level ok as long as the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is going on.. meaning test and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) being taken.
I guess I am trying to determine that if I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and my LH is basicaly zero... should I be doing anything about it or is that low level ok as long as the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is going on.. meaning test and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) being taken.
Depends on how your HTPA is malfuntioning.
If your body is just not making enough LH on its own then suplemtning with HCH could bring your Testosterone up to normal levels.
BUT if your Testes are not able to produce enough or any more(maxed out/possible malfunction in "Testosterone Factory"), then Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) would do nothing to increase Testosterone levels...
CenturionHRT
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If your Testes("Testosterone factory") are just not able to produce enough Testosterone some doctors will just try to add enough Testosterone to just make up the difference.
If the doctor can add just enough and not to much to shut down the HPTA(LH production) then this would work.
Usually a gel or very low weekly dose of injectable Test...Like 50mg/wk
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