LOL! I joined today! Please just help me before you blast me!

Am I an idiot or will people actually help me?

  • You’re An Idiot!

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • Not An Idiot!

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Maybe a little bit of an Idiot!

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • Go F**k Yourself!

    Votes: 9 40.9%

  • Total voters
    22
@Everyone

Is it right for my nuts to feel cut off and my libido to be completely shot? I thought it was supposed to increase libido?
 
This dude is nothing more than a troll. I urge everyone to stop feeding him and hopefully he'll run off to greener pastures elsewhere.
 
@Maintenance Man

You are absolutely right. I will definitely have Diet and Routine in check for the REST of my life for now on! Im almost 200 lbs and look good. I just want to be ripped and super strong at this point by 35. I want to be 225 lbs and bench 425 by 35. I have come to the conclusion that the real stuff is way better; but if I take another PH cycle it will be something like DNA Mammoth because that stuff looks sick! Reminds me of the SUS 500 and Testanate 50 days!

Seriously? test e in 50mg doses? youre a faggot... a flaming, trolling, faggot.
 
@StefanX

The poll for was when I was starting out

@Docd187123

Dude. I am not a troll I seriously do not know all of this stuff but am learning slowing. We all do not have all the knowledge of what to do and how like you do.

@Fieldsy

I am not a faggot; I am sorry; I just do not have any TEST; not everyone has Fing Test on them 24/7. I am just wondering to do if I do not have TEST. Why cant anyone answer that Fing question? Do you just wait for your nuts to come back naturally?

@Everyone

If I cant get my hands on a SERM at the moment and just use Revolution PCT and Pure TEST OCT type stuff will I live or will I die?

I want to start DMAA Oxylite Pro ASAP; when do you think I should start that up?
 
@Everyone

Also here is a picture of my sorry ass; which I was a lot bigger like the guys at the gym. I just do not think I have the body composition for it. I use to be a bean pole and way skinnier than this before PH’s and working out 24/7.
 
I'll feed you again I guess. You are a troll. Either that or you have serious psychological issues to the point I'd be going check...check....check....check as I went through the DSM IV. How do you know I have knowledge, I could have no knowledge at all. I would begin learning by listening to what was recommended to me and researching on my own. You've been given the same advice 20+ times. You're either mentally disturbed or a troll. Instill stand by my initial comment.
 
@Docd187123

I apologize. And I am sorry that you feel that way. But everyone has to start somewhere and this is how I am doing it. Yes I need to read all the Sticky***8217;s and shut up and color; but only now have I finally figured all of that out; so call me an idiot. Again I apologize.
 
This guy has consistently been given truthful and accurate info over and over again...yet he ignores it and then posts the same shit over on different boards. As soon as someone tells him something he doesn't want to hear...he goes and looks for the answer he wants on another board. This guy's progress problem is not the drugs he is taking. The reason he isn't growing or getting stronger is because he does not know how to bodybuild. He has no idea what it means to eat or train for growth...yet he continues pumping himself full or potent orals and gaining little when he should be gaining a lot. He posted on another board that he used 4 orals at once...and he said, to quote... "I was very dissappointed with the results".

He is now at the point where is bashing the products of several OTC companies because he can't make gains. He has been told a dozen times if he can't make good strength gains in 30 days using something like SD, then he sure as fuck won't make good strength gain using D-bol for 30 days....and that swithcing to traditional steroids is not going to fix his inability to make gains. He was also told about a dozen times that drugs like SD and Dimethazine are not PH's, but are real, fully active AAS...yet he continues to call them "PH's"...and keeps saying how he needs the "real" stuff over and over again. Like some other guys have said, I suggest we stop feeding the troll. I am positive he will simply pop up somewhere else and start this shit all over again, while continuing to blame each company he buys from for his lack of progress. He has already ignored the sound advice of several smart guys on multiple boards, all of whom are telling him the same thing...that his problem is with his diet and training.

If he really does want to start making progress...he knows what he needs to do...he has been told numerous times. He needs to invest some time educating himself on the basics of BB'ing nutrition and how to construct and implement a sound training program...and he shouldn't be asking everyone from here to the other side of the world how to do this either. He needs to READ...just like all of have had to do, not expect a board member(s) to personally put together his program for him. I would think at age 35 he would have figured out how to do this buy now...and if he has just started training, he has no business using steroids yet anyway and is all the more reason to start from square one.
 
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This guy has consistently been given truthful and accurate info over and over again...yet he ignores it and then posts the same shit over on different boards. As soon as someone tells him something he doesn't want to hear...he goes and looks for the answer he wants on another board. This guy's progress problem is not the drugs he is taking. The reason he isn't growing or getting stronger is because he does not know how to bodybuild. He has no idea what it means to eat or train for growth...yet he continues pumping himself full or potent orals and gaining little when he should be gaining a lot. He posted on another board that he used 4 orals at once...and he said, to quote... "I was very dissappointed with the results".

He is now at the point where is bashing the products of several OTC companies because he can't make gains. He has been told a dozen times if he can't make good strength gains in 30 days using something like SD, then he sure as fuck won't make good strength gain using D-bol for 30 days....and that swithcing to traditional steroids is not going to fix his inability to make gains. He was also told about a dozen times that drugs like SD and Dimethazine are not PH's, but are real, fully active AAS...yet he continues to call them "PH's"...and keeps saying how he needs the "real" stuff over and over again. Like some other guys have said, I suggest we stop feeding the troll. I am positive he will simply pop up somewhere else and start this shit all over again, while continuing to blame each company he buys from for his lack of progress. He has already ignored the sound advice of several smart guys on multiple boards, all of whom are telling him the same thing...that his problem is with his diet and training.

If he really does want to start making progress...he knows what he needs to do...he has been told numerous times. He needs to invest some time educating himself on the basics of BB'ing nutrition and how to construct and implement a sound training program...and he shouldn't be asking everyone from here to the other side of the world how to do this either. He needs to READ...just like all of have had to do, not expect a board member(s) to personally put together his program for him. I would think at age 35 he would have figured out how to do this buy now...and if he has just started training, he has no business using steroids yet anyway and is all the more reason to start from square one.

Mike I know of at least one other board where I posted this exact same thing, just minus the intricate detail. He's either a troll as you say or a typical "attention whore". Either way you're right, time to stop feeding him.

But first lol, since this thread can't get any more off topic, what would you say if I couldn't make gains on 60days of SD? Should I try DAA maybe or tribulus? :D. PS thanks for the awesome write up to my question in the Q&A, you surprise me every time I read a post from you!
 
@Mike Arnold

I apologize for not living up to your expectations.

@Docd187123

Can always count on you to be there to push the dagger in further.
 
@Everyone

JUST FYI! I have printed out all of these comments and will be studying everyone***8217;s input carefully. I am currently back in college and have a 4.0 GPA. I might have acted ignorant sometimes; but that is only because I am frustrated with this whole process. What I have learned though; that it is going to take years.

Learned:

1. I need a core Natural base
2. I need to EAT more than anyone can imagine
3. I need to Train like never before
4. I need WILL and DEDICATION
5. I need HEART

I really and sincerely appreciate everyone***8217;s comments; and look forward into keeping in contact with some of you because you have been so very helpful. I will be working on my natural core and when I graduated from that I will be ready to move on to the next level. I will be doing extensive research in the meantime.

Thank you so much for all over your support; and please if you have last minute advice on my journey please do not hesitate to leave a uplifting comment.

Best,
Needspractice
 
Another good piece of advice would be to stay away from orals... especially using more than one oral steroid or pro hormone at once. You are going to really hurt your liver. I suggest you go to the doctor in the middle of a oral pro hormone or steroid cycle and good blood work done and look at your liver enzyme levels and you will nearly shit your self when you see how bad running multiple oral pro hormones or steroids will make those levels. I really do think though the best way to gain a lot of muscle is to just eat a shit load of meat every day and lots of carbs while working out 5 days a week. make sure to take in 2 grams of protein for every pound of body weight every single day for at least 3 months. And have a schedule of food intake you stick to every day. make pre made meals for your day if need be. lol and hope to god you haven't shot your natural testosterone from all those damn pro hormones! I think what you need is a personal trainer and nutritionist that really is the bottom line and the best answer. You need some one to tell you what to do and just one person who will do that and not follow 30 different peoples advice. Just do that and tell him you want to gain 20 pounds of muscle or something and you will be golden as long as he knows what he is doing and you listen.
 
lol and if you keep posting the same questions all the time when you have gotten the answers people are just going to make fun of you. You really should follow my advice and get a personal trainer for at least one session a week and a nutritionist to. Its obvious you need some help and you need some one who is there in person who can really listen. I can almost promise you if you do those two things you will get good results you just have to apply your self. Lol and if I where you I would get blood work done at some point for testosterone levels and liver enzymes and cholesterol and all that just to be safe. Pro hormones are intense and can fuck you up. And over the counter products for post cycle therapy (pct) wont bring your testosterone levels back to normal making gaining muscle way harder when pro hormones are stopped. So maybe you should look into seeing a hormone specialist to prescribe you some clomid and nolvadex or something like that. But ya man it sounds like pro hormones are not the answer for you and neither are steroids tell you get a personal trainer and nutritionist. It doesn't really matter how smart you are if you haven't figured this all out why waste more time.
 
[UPDATE] – AND I NEED YOUR HELP!

Ok. So I took Super DMZ 2.0 with LMG. Man do I feel messed up at the moment. I do not know what is going on with myself. I have had several problems and I am not sure what it is. I will list a few to see what you guys think.

1. After a few weeks off I hit the GYM a little bit and had almost whole body muscle cramps that were severe I mean to the point where I had to take an ICE bath; muscle relaxer bath; put soothing lotion on my muscles; and take Tylenol or Ibuprofen.
2. Joints and arms hurt; mainly in my wrist and elbows but sometimes in my back. I think mainly in my wrist and elbows because of my video game addiction problem in the past but just seems to have gotten worse; and from my back from starting to play golf a lot; I have been swinging hard and often.
3. I think I do have a form of IBS though that is always at bay; hasn’t acted up in a while but thought I would just note that.
4. One thing I did want to mention is that I think I severely over trained. I do remember being on SDZ and my arms feeling like they were going to explode. I work out some of my body way to hard and did not spread works out around to different muscle groups like I should of. I latterly had to stop working out my arms because I could barely move them they felt so thick.
5. I have been taking pro-hormones off and on for years since like 25. I am wondering if I did any major damage to myself? I do not notice anything major; just the fact that for example my color bone hurts always when I do dips. Like my bones are not strong enough to hold my upper body. I did have a bird chest growing up for the longest time and even my dad made fun of me. That is why I worked out so hard for so long. I was naturally around 135 lbs. and now I can’t get under 185 lbs. I am just wondering if I am bigger than my bones can support; and if I am how do I fix this because I think I am all muscle and can’t lose the weight?
6. Even joints in my hands; fingers; and right toe and foot seem to easily hurt. I thought I might have some kind of rudimentary arthritis but I told the Doctor what I thought I had and when he did blood work he said that they didn’t find anything.
7. When I had it bad the muscle jerks at night I had heat flashes and sometimes sweating but I do not have any of that now; the only thing I have now is muscle twitching at night if it happens. I really feel like I damaged some nerves somewhere and they need some time to heal. My question is how long does it take or do nerves even heal if you have overtrained for like a couple of years?
8. [MAIN PROBLEM] Sleeping. This goes off and on it is so weird. I get these weird muscle twitches like jerks that only happen when I’m trying to go to sleep. It will come and go; like one time it lasted for a week and I went to the Doctor and had blood work done and he said everything was fine; and it finally went a way for a while. Then like a month later or sooner it will pop in and hit me again and mess up my whole sleep schedule and I can’t sleep at all. Then after a few days it goes away. I do not think I proper PCT at all for this cycle and I am afraid that I messed something up. There was one time however that it was acting up and I started talking Revolution PCT and it fixed it. Then just last night I took Revolution PCT; Pure TEST; Cycle Assists and 300 MG of Magnesium; and it happened again. I also worked out very mildly a couple hours before bed and half a beer only early that day. I haven’t been drinking at all. When I wake up I feel great; walk around no problem; go to school; nothing noticeable. My elbows feel a little wore out and so do my wrists; but that’s it.

Guys I could really use your help. I have really bad health insurance. I can go to the Doctor up to 5 times per year and only up to 500 dollars per visit. I already used two for my foot and one for the blood test. I do not know what to do? I have never had this sleeping problem before when taking pro hormones. I do not know if it is Super DMZ or just finally all these pro hormones finally caught up to me. Is this healable or has anyone else had this problem?

*I did take some OxyElite the DMAA version for a while and did not like that. Maybe a couple of weeks.

Here is what I am taking off and on trying to figure out the right dose to give me sleep:

Finaflex PureTest
Finaflex Revolution PCT
Tribulus Raw Power
Competitive Edge Labs Cycle Assist
Natural Vitality Natural Calm [Been taking this every night]

Sometimes I take at random times:

Osteo Bi-Flex [I think this one could be a problem]
GNC Maximum Greens
Flintstone Vitamins
Equate One Daily Men’s
Equate Calcium 500+D
Echinacea
Vitamin C 1000MG

Thinking about taking to see if it helps:

Phenibut
Lift Mode 5HTP

I know that some of you guys are going to say that you are on too much stuff. Well sometimes I come completely off of everything for like a couple of months and eventually the sleep muscle twitches come back. The only other thing I can think of is that I have very low testosterone at the moment. Last time I had trouble sleeping I took Revolution PCT and Magnesium and I sleep like a baby for a long time.

The only other trigger could be

Gold Standard Whey and the amino acids in it. I had a small protein shake before I went to bed a few hours earlier and had a huge dinner. O wait that might have a problem as well. I had dinner at like 9:00 PM and went to be at 10. But how could that cause muscle twitching.

Also my dad says he only need about 5-6 hours of sleep. I could be over sleeping. I try to get 9 to 12.

Also I think I might have some anxiety because I am use to making six figures and working 12 hours a day. I did that for 10 years of my life. Now I am a poor college student which my wife takes care of me. I wonder if this could be psychology as well.

There was a time when I had Amino Acids 2222 and Gold standard Whey Protein that was expired and the lid was not sealed tight. I had they for a little while; wonder if my body had toxic amino acids for a while and now reacts to them?

Well I slept great for the past few weeks. The only thing I did different was work out a little late by very easily; not hard. Eat a late dinner. Had a half of a beer; and maybe mix cycle assist with Revolution PCT and pure test before I went to bed. And had a small protein shake before dinner.

Also do you think I could have over trained because my body just feels like it needs a lot of rest? I worked out tri-ceps like a week and a half ago mildly and they still hurt today; pretty bad. I think I need a long break. And if I do need a long break how do I work out so I don’t lose everything even though I am injured. I just feel like a lot of my muscle are injured.

Summary Questions:

1. I know this is a lot. I was just hoping someone could shed some light on all of this.
2. Please advise me on what to do or if there is anything I can do.
3. Also I do not have very good insurance pretty much if any so I am relying on you guys.
4. Please help me.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this. I hope you have a wonderful day. Please help!

Best,
Needspractice
 
dude every one told you not to take the pro hormones we all spent a lot of time trying to give you good advice and you didn't listen. All you can do now for your problems is go get a complete blood test to find out where all your hormone levels are at. Im not sure all the hormones you need to have checked but I know it would involve testosterone, LH, estrogen , prolactin or progesterone, t3, and some other things I think. I really am not to educated about all of that. So I recommend you start researching what type of blood tests to get. That is just to see if you did long term damage to your HPTA system basically your natural testosterone.

And it sounds like to me whatever substance you took dried out your joints and you overtrained also so now you are experiencing the pain from dry joints and intense work outs. At it could be fully possible also that your body is out of alignment and you need to go to a chiropractor. With the sleep issues it could be linked to anxiety or something mental honestly. Your hormones being out of whack could do it to. I recommend you really take some time to think about if pro hormones are worth all the trouble they are causing you.... There is no right way to do prohormones legally they have to be ran with a testosterone base and PCT should be nolvadex and clomid and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should be ran through the cycle. Also man you are going to fuck your liver up eventually running only oral steroids basically. I don't think theres anymore advice I can give you man good luck.
 
I would have thought you would smarten up by now but I guess not. The answer hasn't changed from what ppl told you months ago.
 
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