Looking for a great 3rd Cycle : Bulking !!!

[Renagade2287]

ok guys i have had 2 previous cycles and am looking for a cycle to start in mid Oct.

My Past cycles have been

1. Test E / D-bol - 12 week cycle
2. Test E / D-bol / Deca - 12 week cycle

ive had no problems with either cycle and i know some people say dont fix what aint broken but ive herd alot about Tren and anadrol 50. Also im open to experiment with pretty much any compound as i can get them fairly easy.

Any info that you guys have tried or have herd of that put on some good mass and strength please let me know.

My stats 215 lbs, 10-13% bf, age 22, been lifting for about 4-5years continuous.

 

[Biggin]

Test-e 500mgs/week for 12 weeks.

Tren-e 400mgs/week for 10 weeks.

T-bol- 40mgs/day weeks 8-12.

 

[juced_porkchop]

if you are gonna try tren i would try trenA first it does need to be pinned eod but if you get bad sides they would be gone fast with trenE it may take weeks.
i dont think you should use tren yet but if you do do it lower dose and use trenA maybe 50mg eod for 6 wks and see how it gose.

what i DO rec is maybe somthing like this:
bulker:
wk1-4 Dbol 30mg ed
wk1-14 TestE 500mg ew
wk1-12 Deca 300-400mg ew

or
cutter or leanbulk depending on goals/diet:
wk1-5 Tbol 40mg ed
wk1-14 testE 500mg ew
wk1-14 MastE 400mg ew

AND DONT FORGET ABOUT PCT!!!

 

[Renagade2287]

now is test e still the best test for a bulking cycle or could i lean toward sus250. and is tbol pretty much the same thing as dbol, or how are they diff.

 

[Renagade2287]

Hows the Tren on eod injections cuz im doing test-e and deca right now (stealth packages) and i inject both on mon. (500mg test / 300mg deca) and they are sore as a mother fucker!!!

Now its not gonna stop me from killing the weights but its a lil uncomfortable rolling over in the bed at night hahaha.

Also i herd Tren A and anadrol 50 was a badass stack. Great mass and hell of a strength gain.

 

[The Deuce]

WOW !! THIS PLACE MAKES ME CHUCKLE...

Tren Ace needs to be injected... EVERY DAY because of its half life.. not every other day...

Tren E is a bad choice unless you have run ACE for the exact reason outlined above...

SUST is inherently junk.. all the different esters throw your blood levels for a loopty loop.. better off sticking with a single ester like TEST E or CYP...


NOW I AM ONLY GOING TO SAY THIS ONCE... !! COMPOUNDS DO NOT MAKE A BULKING OR A CUTTING CYLE... DIET DOES !! ITS ALL DIET!!

I can cut with Test E and have and I can BULK with Test P... its all on how many calories you consume.. your macros and your training/cardio regimen which determines what happens as far as muscle growth and fat loss... the compounds are just there for a helping HAND !!!

You want a good Bulker??

Do a 14 weeker

1-14 Test Cyp 600mgs EW shot twice a week like it is supposed to be.. every 3.5 days.. for instance .. monday morning and thursday night..

1-12 Deca 500mgs EW (mix the two compounds together twice per week)

So it should be dosed CYP- 200mgs/ml and DECA 250mgs/ml so that is 1.5ml of cyp + 1 ml of deca = 2.5mls of Juice injected every 3.5 days to keep the blood levels stable.

For a kickstart since you have ran dbol... give anadrol a try for 4 weeks at 100mgs EVERY DAY.

Also.. during your entire cycle.. run cabergoline at 250mcgs every 3 days to avoid prolactin sides from the 19-nor and .25mgs EVERY OTHER DAY OF ADEX to avoid massive bloat... maybe if that dont work to .25mgs every day...

NOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DBOL AND TBOL FOR ALL OF YOU WHO DONT KNOW !!

DBOL= QUICK GAINS WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF WATER BLOAT AND YOU ALMOST EVERYTIME LOSE ALL OF WHAT YOU HAVE GAINED ONCE YOU STOP USING IT.. I HATE DBOL and NEVER RUN IT ANYMORE..

TBOL= Great gains in LBM - LEAN BODY MASS (MUSCLE) without any bloat because why?? NONE OF IT CONVERTS TO ESTROGEN.. so you get the growth from dbol but without ... THAT BLOATYNESS !! SO THUS MAKING TBOL A GREAT CHOICE EVERYTIME OVER DBOL...Because if you do everything correctly.. YOU SHOULDNT LOSE A THING !!!


Now... Dude doing the bulking cycle... your pct...

2 weeks after your last shot of Test E...

4 weeks of...

NOLVA/CLOMID/AROMASIN - 40/100/25 mgs Every single day !!

with that post cycle therapy (pct) you should keep approx 80% of your gains... which is a good portion.. NO post cycle therapy (pct) = KEEPING NO GAINS... so you make the call.. i can tell ya which one i always chose.

Anymore questions... JUST ASK !! PLEASE... !! I dont wanna see anyone fvck themselves up beyond repair.. i am taking my personal time out to help you guys so please show some respect and at least do as i say so you dont end up hurting yourselves... STEROIDS ARE NOT A GAME !! They are serious business and if done improperly can PERMANENTLY FVCK UP YOUR ENDOCRINE SYSTEM IN YOUR BODY.. FVCKING PERMANENTLY.. LIKE YOU CANT EVER FIX IT.. EVER.. No doctor can make you healthy again...

 

[Shaptown]

Deuce-

I don't like your inherently know it all attitude. The mere fact that you said sustanon sucks means you know NOTHING!!!! Tren Acetate does NOT need to be injected every day. WRONG AGAIN.

Anadrol will cause more water retention than dbol even for most people...

Dont go giving people advice when you don't pass on straight facts....

 

[Biggin]

Lot of mixed opinions. Renegade if I were u I would research for myself and go with what has worked previously. Dont know what is going on with some of these answers???

 

[The Deuce]

Deuce-

I don't like your inherently know it all attitude. The mere fact that you said sustanon sucks means you know NOTHING!!!! Tren Acetate does NOT need to be injected every day. WRONG AGAIN.

Anadrol will cause more water retention than dbol even for most people...

Dont go giving people advice when you don't pass on straight facts....

YOU ARE WRONG !! WRONG WRONG WRONG !!

MR. KNOW IT ALL

Sust does suck... it throws your blood levels all over the place genius..

TREN ACE DOES NEED TO BE INJECTED EVERY SINGLE DAY TO AVOID SIDE EFFECTS FROM THE COMPOUND !!! YAH YOU COULD INJECT IT ONCE A WEEK BUT YOU WOULDNT SEE THE REAL BENEFITS FROM IT...

ANADROL DOES NOT CAUSE MORE WATER RETENTION THAN DBOL.. I HAVE USED BOTH !! DONT TELL ME I DONT KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT INTERNET WARRIOR...

I HAVE BEEN IN THIS GAME LONGER THAN YOU COULD EVEN COMPREHEND YOU FVCKING GENIUS !!

Sustanon is THE WORST Testosterone Compound.. and there are medical reports stating such things.. that is why in the UNITED STATES !! It was removed from the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) database. Blends cause more retention. of water... more side effects.. more everything !! What do you like sust?? ARE YOU A SUST QUEEN??

I have used Sust before and hell I may use it again at some point in my life but to call me out on the internet telling me I know nothing is very very childish of you.. I know more about AAS than you could ever dream of. I have successfully run every compound at different dosages... I have competed in PowerLifting Comps... MMA Fights and Body Building Comps...

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?? Thats what I thought... dont call me out wwhen you know nothing about me !!

Show me scientific fact about all the claims you just made... DO IT !! Because I can pull up scientific facts backing everything I stated...

 

[The Deuce]

and

= ME !!


YOU GONNA TELL ME I DONT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING NOW CHIEF ??

Yah thats what I thought...


To everyone else.. sorry for the drama this dude thinks he can bring.. LOL... lets see a picture of him and his history !!

 

[Renagade2287]

hahah yea i was about to say i posted a forum for help not a fucking drama fest. but bro you look good. and i guess i will have to do more reasearch but i relly do wanna try anadrol and tren but just want to make sure im not too much of a "beginner" to try it. still any past cycles you may have tried please feel free to post up how they worked for you and why you liked or disliked them.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Deuce-

I don't like your inherently know it all attitude. The mere fact that you said sustanon sucks means you know NOTHING!!!! Tren Acetate does NOT need to be injected every day. WRONG AGAIN.

Anadrol will cause more water retention than dbol even for most people...

Dont go giving people advice when you don't pass on straight facts....

BUMP!! i agree with you!!!
also i DONOT think sust (or omnadren) are crap.
but i do suggest going with single ester if its cheaper. but usually omnadren is cheaper then them all so id say go for omna's.
2X shots a week is nuff for ether or.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO SHOOT SUST/OMNAS EOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to take advantage od short esters? NO then you would use just a short ester!!
2 shots a week is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!

also trenA has half life of 3-4 days NOT1-2 days. ED-EOD shots are best.
there is nothign wrong with EOD shots unless its suspention.

 

[Renagade2287]

ok so all the big dick show aside, is ten ace a good compund to run on a third bulking cycle with anadrol 50? or should this be used later n in the game?

 

[Shaptown]

ok so all the big dick show aside, is ten ace a good compund to run on a third bulking cycle with anadrol 50? or should this be used later n in the game?

yes tren ace is a good compound for strength and mass gains.

yes anadrol is a good compound for strength and mass gains.

However tren really is the strongest compound out there. Once you use it everything never quite does what tren will do. Its up to you whether or not you use it. Gyno from it is harder to control, but it does provide great gains.

At the end of the day, do as you wish.

 

[Renagade2287]

awsome thanks bro, also would some of the moderators or "vet.s" care to post on this?