MASTERON ENANTHATE....I liked it, did you?

pretty much all AAS compounds are going to give your more 'visible' results when your body fat is 10% as opposed to 20%
 
I agree, but I too was on the higher side of bf% and did notice a difference. I was taking pics all the time so obviously easier to notice that way. Now with the higher bf I notices vascularity and a bit more sex drive and it did help with a little water retention, but as I said it took a long time for that. Now I'm 13% maybe little less and running Mast Prop. 3 weeks in and the veins are pumping. And have noticed sex drive or the want to at least. Since I'm using prop I didn't start until week 6 of my test e tren a cycle due to money and figured mast prop would get me there quicker than mast e. So tren has done it's deed for the past 6 weeks and the noticeable changes are coming slowly from the mast now. However I will agree that the lessbf% the better no doubt, maybe even less bf% benifits you could see sooner? But I've been on the high and low side of bf and did notice chances just took much longer!
 
But I certainly noticed some great benefits to my physique at 16+

And you're 100% sure you can attribute those improvements to the Masteron?

What other compounds were you running? Were you running a calorie deficit?

Personally I would only consider running Masteron sub 12%...
 
And you're 100% sure you can attribute those improvements to the Masteron?

What other compounds were you running? Were you running a calorie deficit?

Personally I would only consider running Masteron sub 12%...

Yes, because as I said I dropped it after 12 weeks and could see a difference in the appearance of my muscles after stopping. Some definition was lost, I looked "wetter" and vascularity dropped. At the time I was also running test E and deca. The only variable was the mast E. I was bulking and diet stayed constant.
 
Okay so I started masteron about 3 days ago. Mast P. I'm also running Adex EOD at .25mg. Today is chest day and it's been 3 days adding mast like I said and I have random joint pain. My shoulder joints are a little achier that usual and my elbows a tiny bit painful. Never has this happened before masteron, I was fine about 3 days ago. Is this the "anti-E" properties of masteron workin on top of Adex? Low Estrogen maybe? I'm running Test P also at 600mg a week. I suspect that I should be running Adex too with that kind of test weekly... Everyone says that Masteron shouldn't be used as anti-E only but in this case... I'd have to lower Adex and if it continues maybe drop Adex totally? Or drop mast dosage and play with Adex dosage? Any input?

Also, just tried to do leg raises on the padded dip stand or whatever. Elbows have sharp pain.
 
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I love Mast E, especially dosed at 200mg per ml. 450 to 600mg / week is the sweet spot. Depends if I'm running with tren A or Primo E.
 
My money is on the adex causing problems. Allot of people nail it with Adex, others struggle and overdue or underfur it for a bit and adjust, other just use aromasin and dial it in that way. Joint pain from lack of lubricatin due to low e2 is a common side effect. I don't think it's the mast as it would just be getting to peak bloods at 3 days and hasn't even begun to do its things. I'd play with Adex dose. Not sure if you said what test dose you are on but you may not be aromatising all that much and require a lower dose.
 
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My money is on the adex causing problems. Allot of people nail it with Adex, others struggle and overdue or underfur it for a bit and adjust, other just use aromasin and dial it in that way. Joint pain from lack of lubricatin due to low e2 is a common side effect. I don't think it's the mast as it would just be getting to peak bloods at 3 days and hasn't even begun to do its things. I'd play with Adex dose. Not sure if you said what test dose you are on but you may not be aromatising all that much and require a lower dose.

I had the same suspicion. I'm on 600mg test P a week
 
I had the same suspicion. I'm on 600mg test P a week

You will aromatise at that dose, but the time you do varies from individual. That's why it's better to run a low dose of an AI over a longer period of time, pretty much always. Like any drug, the lower the dose that works the better.
 
Okay so I started masteron about 3 days ago. Mast P. I'm also running Adex EOD at .25mg. Today is chest day and it's been 3 days adding mast like I said and I have random joint pain. My shoulder joints are a little achier that usual and my elbows a tiny bit painful. Never has this happened before masteron, I was fine about 3 days ago. Is this the "anti-E" properties of masteron workin on top of Adex? Low Estrogen maybe? I'm running Test P also at 600mg a week. I suspect that I should be running Adex too with that kind of test weekly... Everyone says that Masteron shouldn't be used as anti-E only but in this case... I'd have to lower Adex and if it continues maybe drop Adex totally? Or drop mast dosage and play with Adex dosage? Any input?

Also, just tried to do leg raises on the padded dip stand or whatever. Elbows have sharp pain.

Same boat here brotha. Was fine on my cruise then bumped up the test and added mast P at 700mg and my shoulders and elbows are dry and achey. Using aromasin at 10mg/day so I doubt that's crashing anything. Must just be how mast effects me.
 
Thanks guy. Out of all like 1000 products on my stand, one I DONT have is aromasin. Just Letro and Adex as AIs. I think maybe I'll drop Adex to .15mg EOD? And work from there? Thanks guy
 
Also thinking of measuring high estrogen by maybe watching titanic or the notebook to see if I cry? Or rocky, when he's yelling aaaadrriiieennnn. Always gets me. If I cry, high estrogen for sure, will kick Adex up to .15mg
 
Nice thread guys

Just added 300mg/week masteron to my 180mh/week trt test dose

Think that's enough? Currently 2 weeks into a 12 week diet
 
i tried both. masteron 200 (150mg mast enanthate and 50mg mast prop per ML), and mast prop 100, and i liked mast prop way better. in general i like shorter acting everything in general (except test cyp when i cruise) because i feel like i have way more control over it. like if the dose/dose frequency needs adjusting you can easily do it or if you feel the compound isn't for you you just stop taking it and you're off within days.

and also i just dont feel like waiting for the long esters to build up in your system. it may be placebo but i feel better on short esters, and also i just generally like the idea of short esters while on a blast. injection frequency does not bother me in the slightest.

the only long ester i plan on experimenting with in my future blasts is primo. i've seen primo acetate/propionate or whatever floating around but it seems like bullshit to me.
 
Okay so I started masteron about 3 days ago. Mast P. I'm also running Adex EOD at .25mg. Today is chest day and it's been 3 days adding mast like I said and I have random joint pain. My shoulder joints are a little achier that usual and my elbows a tiny bit painful. Never has this happened before masteron, I was fine about 3 days ago. Is this the "anti-E" properties of masteron workin on top of Adex? Low Estrogen maybe? I'm running Test P also at 600mg a week. I suspect that I should be running Adex too with that kind of test weekly... Everyone says that Masteron shouldn't be used as anti-E only but in this case... I'd have to lower Adex and if it continues maybe drop Adex totally? Or drop mast dosage and play with Adex dosage? Any input?

Also, just tried to do leg raises on the padded dip stand or whatever. Elbows have sharp pain.
How much mast are u running E?? What dose?
 
How much mast are u running E?? What dose?

600. 4 days in including today. So I'm at 342mg so far. I guess it is too early for it to be the masteron, but it's such a coincidence that the 2nd day in the dry joints started. Keeping everything the same.
 
Yeah, probably mind fucking yourself, lol.
That sounds like a good dose to start with. im about to get mine anyday now. figure ill add it to trt regimin for a while. Just to harden up a bit for simmer coming.
 
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