Mdrol and Clenbuterol/T3?

[superfreak]

Hello everyone. I am thinking about doing my first ph, or anything cylce for that matter. I have been lifting now for about 4 years, I am 25 years old 270lbs 6'2" at about 18-20% bf. My current goal is to lower my bf%, hence the clen and t3 but I hear running T3 creates muscle wasting and its best to stack with either a ph or real gear. My question to all of you very fine, and knowledgeable folks on here is how effective would this cycle be with using Competitive edge labs MDrol stacked with Clen and t3. Also what kind of post cycle therapy (pct) should I do while on the 3? And any other type of information that I forgot to ask for but what you all may think is useful would be welcomed. Thank you all in advance

* On a side not I am posting the same question over on the anabolic forum because I am contemplating subbing the Mdrol for Win..so any thoughts on this matter as well is welcome as well. Thank you

 

[vBRAH]

Sounds good IMO, post cycle therapy (pct) would be Nolva @ 40/40/20/20
I'd run something like Hawthorn Berry to try control bloody pressure etc

 

[superfreak]

OK I will have to look into and research that Hawthorn berry...I know I have to get milk thistle....So do I need to post cycle therapy (pct) the T3?, I know the Clen they say I need to use Ketotifen...Also should I factor in my body weight with the dosing in regards to the T3 and ketotifen?...I know with the Mdrol I dont and the Clen I researched...But finding detailed info on T3 and Keto isnt as easy...Thank you vBrah

 

[l DUB l]

For your first PH/DS I would not take M-Drol.

Id look into any hdrol, promag, 1-t, Epi products.

Primordial carries 2 good ones.

Turinabol

1-T

I would also take Clen/T3 before or after your cycle.....not during (my opinion)

 

[Orbitz]

For your first PH/DS I would not take M-Drol.

Id look into any hdrol, promag, 1-t, Epi products.

Primordial carries 2 good ones.

Turinabol

1-T

I would also take Clen/T3 before or after your cycle.....not during (my opinion)

Negative, clen and t3 will eat your muscles for dinner if you dont take a anabolic with it.

 

[superfreak]

Negative, clen and t3 will eat your muscles for dinner if you dont take a anabolic with it.

Yea the only way I would throw the T3 in there was if I decided to go with the Anabolic route..Probably tren...But why would you not stack Mdrol for a beginner cycle?

 

[superfreak]

Also can someone clarify something for me? Its in regards to the Ketotifen..I understand this is the ingredient in eye drops...Soo am I supposed to buy eyedrops and drink them lol or do they sell actual keto tabs/caps??? lol sorry for my silly questions..But seriously all of your inputs are greatly appreciated

 

[waceyf]

Yea the only way I would throw the T3 in there was if I decided to go with the Anabolic route..Probably tren...But why would you not stack Mdrol for a beginner cycle?

No tren for beginner bro. go with test IMO for first cycle

 

[superfreak]

No tren for beginner bro. go with test IMO for first cycle

what does "IMO" mean?

 

[l DUB l]

"In my opinion"

Superdrol is known to be the harshest DS on the market.....has been for awhile next to M1T.

I would personally not run Clen on cycle.....thats just me.......stuffs crazy.

 

[MMA732]

Run test or helladrol with T3, clen is a tad overated, just as good at the ECA stack.

 

[Orbitz]

"In my opinion"

Superdrol is known to be the harshest DS on the market.....has been for awhile next to M1T.

I would personally not run Clen on cycle.....thats just me.......stuffs crazy.

Nothing wrong with running a superdrol as long as your prepared for the sides and have all your cycle supports and post cycle therapy (pct) lined up.

Clen off cycle is silly, why waste the muscle i dont get it.

 

[Needtogetaas]

Negative, clen and t3 will eat your muscles for dinner if you dont take a anabolic with it.

Well not totally true though orbit. At a lower dose of say 12.5 to 25mcg a day (depending) t-3 will likely only speed up protein synthesis. Many people use a light dose like this on bulking cycles. Still I see 0 reason to use t-3 or clen off cycle.

As for your first otc steroid run. I would go with epi-strong Epistrong Beastdrol Helladrol :: EPI-STRONG 90CAPS - OrbitNutrition one of the only good epi products left on the market.
Dosed at 15mg per cap 90 ct bottle its a bad ass bargain. I also have a discount code for it to if anyone wants send me a pm..

A good way to run the cycle is like this
1-4 epi-strong 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 forged liver support 2 caps ed
1-4 hcgenerate 5 caps ed spread out.
4-8 unleashed/post cycle/FORMA-STANOZOLOL ed as directed on the labels


Covers all your basses

 

[Needtogetaas]

"In my opinion"

Superdrol is known to be the harshest DS on the market.....has been for awhile next to M1T.

I would personally not run Clen on cycle.....thats just me.......stuffs crazy.

Clen+beastdrol aka superdrol would be pretty damn harsh I have to agree. Adrenal system would be pissed off lol

 

[Needtogetaas]

what does "IMO" mean?

"In My opinion" good friend

 

[Orbitz]

Well not totally true though orbit. At a lower dose of say 12.5 to 25mcg a day (depending) t-3 will likely only speed up protein synthesis. Many people use a light dose like this on bulking cycles. Still I see 0 reason to use t-3 or clen off cycle.

you literally just said what i have been saying to use t3 on a cycle so you do agree with me.

 

[l DUB l]

Clen+beastdrol aka superdrol would be pretty damn harsh I have to agree. Adrenal system would be pissed off lol

right, theres no way I would run s-drol and clen

 

[MMA732]

Yeah superdrol and stims are not a good combo at all on the CNS.