mixing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) question

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mixing hcg question

I got my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in today and need to mix it. I have a bottle of bac water(10ml), and 5000iu of hcg. Can i draw 1ml of bac water into a syringe, and inject it into the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder...let that mix, then draw that up into a syringe and inject it back into the remaining 9ml of bac water...giving me 5000iu's of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in 10ml(or 500iu's/ml)?

so i will inject half a cc of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week.
 
I d use a little more than 1 cc so as to not over saturate your mix and leave bits behind. I use like 5 mils, mix, shake thoroughly transfer to 1 bottle.
 
You are right... 5,000iu mixed with 10ml of water will put you at 500iu per ml. Personally I like to only add 5mls so I only have to inject .5cc for 500iu....

Its best to only add 1 or 2 cc of Bac water and slowly swirl the water around to mix the HCG.Then add the rest of the water needed... You arent supposed to shake it because Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is very sensitive....
 
the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is in an amp. so i add 1ml of bac water, injecting onto the side of the amp right? you DONT want to inject straight into the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder right?
 
ok let me break this down, just so i know i have it right. heres what i plan to do.

1. withdraw 3ml of bac water and put it in a sterile vial.
2. withdraw 2ml of bac water and inject it into the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder.
3. swirl the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) so it mixes
4. draw the 2ml of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) into a syringe
5. inject the 2ml of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) into the 3ml of bac water in the sterile vial
result = 5000iu's of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in 5ml. or 1000iu's/ml.

so when i inject 250iu's, ill inject .25ml

right?
 
ok let me break this down, just so i know i have it right. heres what i plan to do.

1. withdraw 3ml of bac water and put it in a sterile vial.
2. withdraw 2ml of bac water and inject it into the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) powder.
3. swirl the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) so it mixes
4. draw the 2ml of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) into a syringe
5. inject the 2ml of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) into the 3ml of bac water in the sterile vial
result = 5000iu's of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in 5ml. or 1000iu's/ml.

so when i inject 250iu's, ill inject .25ml

right?

Yep
 
good thread snigg
how long does the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) stay good once mixed?
Any special storing instructions, or just any cool, dark, dry place?
 
mgunz im sure it needs refrigerated. i also heard someone say wrap it in foil and put it in the fridge so it's not exposed to light. i also heard it good for about 60 days once mixed.

i got 2 5000iu vials and 2 10ml bac waters so im not gonna mix the second batch til i start to get low.
 
mgunz im sure it needs refrigerated. i also heard someone say wrap it in foil and put it in the fridge so it's not exposed to light. i also heard it good for about 60 days once mixed.

i got 2 5000iu vials and 2 10ml bac waters so im not gonna mix the second batch til i start to get low.

Yeah i heard the same thing about the 60 days once mixed.

As long as its in the fridge it should be g2g.

Only problem is that i can only get one 5000 iu for my 12 week test e cycle, so im thinking i might run it from week 4 to 11 @ 250iu e4d

Any thoughts?
 
After 60 days its lost a lot of its potency... You could probably still use it but would have to start increasing the dosage to have the same effect....
 
ythrashin schooled me ..AGAIN..
Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is sensitive ???
Well, upon reflection, it IS from preg. womens urine..that would makes sense..
 
Here is a good FAQ write up on HCG...

X-moe posted this on steroids.com... Its pretty good a few "iffy" statements but some good info....Id disregard the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use for PCT.

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (Pregnyl) FAQ
Note: I got this FAQ from a different board, only Q#6,7,9,10,11 were added and written by me x_moe and few others that were edited to give you more info., hope you find this helpful.


1)What is HCG?
Hcg stands for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin.

2)Where does Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) come from?
It is extracted from the urine of pregnant women.

3)Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) a scheduled medication?
No, its similar to clomid and liquidex as far as US laws go. However you would need a prescription to purchase legally in the US.

4)What is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) normally used for?
It is used to help females get pregnant, and can be used to stimulate testosterone production in males.

5)How does Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) work?
Hcg mimics LH(leutenizing hormone). The presence of LH causes the Leydig cells in the gonads to produce testosterone. This effect also restores the size of the testes rather quickly if they were suppressed from a cycle.

6)What should Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) be used for?
Hcg is commonly used by bodybuilders on either very heavy or very long cycles, when the hpta gets severely suppressed. Although Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can be used in almost any cycle, the benefits are most pronounced on heavy/long ones.

7)How do you take it?
You can take it IM or Sub-q.

8)Can I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) only for Pct?
No you shouldn't. It is better than nothing, but clomid or nolva are far better plans. Since Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimics lh, your body wont begin producing its own lh, as it sees no need to because test levels are high. You stop the hcg, your balls stop making test until your body begins producing adequate levels of its own lh, and that may take a while if you don't use clomid or nolvadex to stimulate lh production. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex should also be continued at least 2 weeks after Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is discontinued to avoid the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) causing problems.

9)Can I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle and when?
Yes you can, imo to best benefit from Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is to run it by the last 3-4 weeks of your steroid cycle. Do not run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if your getting signs of gyno, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will make it worst, so becarful.

10)How much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is needed during cycle and/or pct?
For pct a minimum of 10,000iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is needed. When you have a proper pct planned with a serm and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and you want to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the last 4 weeks of your cycle, then you might only need 5,000iu's.
An anti-estrogen (Nolva, etc.) is to be used with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during your last 4 weeks of cycle.

11)What dose do you run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at?
Hcg is best dosed at 500iu and/or 1000iu, more than that can cause too much aromatization, and some people wont react to less than 500iu. So during the last 4 weeks of a cycle, you shoot 500iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week or 1000iu once a week. For post cycle therapy (pct), 500iu ed or 1000iu eod.

12)Can Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) be used w/out steroids to boost test production above baseline?
Yes. It is not recommended however. Continued use of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will desensitize the leydig cells to lh, meaning once you stop using the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as an artificial lh, you will crash bad. The natural lh production once restored by using nolvadex or clomid, may not be as effective as it once was. To boost natural test above baseline, anastrozole, nolvadex and clomid are better choices.


13)How long does Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) boost testosterone for?
Hcg can boost testosterone for up to 5 days following the last dose, although the drugs halflife is very short, and its no longer active at that point.

14)Can Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) cause gyno?
Yes. Estrogen is elevated by two ways from Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use. Primarily from the sharp rise in testosterone, which allows more testosterone to aromatize to estrogen. Secondly Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can cause a small amount of estrogen to be produced which is not from the result of aromatizing, and this is the reason that a combination of an anti aromatize such as liquidex/arimidex/letrozole and a estrogen receptor blocker such as nolvadex are ideally used. The nolvadex may also offer some additional benefit to help avoid a negative estrogen feedback to the hpta during Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy, which would otherwise slightly lessen the effectiveness of the therapy.

15)How does Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) come packaged?
You get 2 vials or amps, 1 has the powdered Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in it, and the other has a diluent in it(solvent). The diluent is typically bacteriostatic water, or sterile water w/ .09% sodium chloride. ***ending on the brand and version, the package commonly comes w/ enough diluent to make concentrations ranging from 250-10,000iu per ml.

If your package is 5000iu, and you add 1ml diluent, you have 5000iu per ml.
If you add 5ml diluent, you final mix is then 1000iu per ml.
If you add 10ml diluent, then 500iu per ml and so on.

This is simple math, and you don't wanna screw it up, know what dose you are taking!

If your package doesn't include enough diluent to make the concentration you want, you have 2 options to make it easy to accurately measure your doses.

1-buy some insulin syringes, U-100 type. On the graduated markings, the 100iu mark is equal to 1ml, the 50iu is .5ml etc. THIS DOES NOT MEAN IF YOU FILL IT TO THE 100IU MARK THAT YOU ARE TAKING 100IU OF HCG! Iu's are not a measurement of volume or weight, they are a measure of effectiveness for a desired response from specific drugs/compounds. Every compound is different. These are insulin syringes, and they are made for insulin-not hcg. Insulin is the same iu concentration per ml everytime(if its u100 type), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is not. Imagine if you made your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 10,000iu per ml. if you fill the insulin syringe up to 100iu mark, you now have 10,000iu in there! Not good. You must understand this.
So if you had 5000iu per ml, and wanted to take a 500iu shot, you would inject 10iu on the insulin syringe scale.

2-buy some bacteriostatic water off the internet, its easily found. Simply add more to dilute it to the desired conscentration. Making lower concentrations are easier and more accurately dosed. Then it can accurately be measured w/ a regular syringe.

Mix the two together, they dissolve very easily. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can be very unstable and to make sure to not shake it and let it foam.... Be careful when reconsituting it . Be gentle and run the bac water down the side of the vial not allowing to foam up... Keep things sterile folks. Unused Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can be refrigerated and is ok to use within 30 days after the initial mixing.

Remember: Store Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at controlled room temperature (59° to 86°F)(15° to 30°C). After reconstituting store in refrigerator (36° to 46°F) (2° to 8°C).

Absorption
A detectable rise in Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is seen in 2 h; peak levels are reached in 6 h and remain at this level for 36 h.

Elimination
hcg levels begin to decline at 48 h and approach baseline at 72 h.
 
X-moe posted this on steroids.com... Its pretty good a few "iffy" statements but some good info....Id disregard the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use for post cycle therapy (pct).

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (Pregnyl) FAQ
Note: I got this FAQ from a different board, only Q#6,7,9,10,11 were added and written by me x_moe and few others that were edited to give you more info., hope you find this helpful.


1)What is HCG?
Hcg stands for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin.

2)Where does Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) come from?
It is extracted from the urine of pregnant women.

3)Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) a scheduled medication?
No, its similar to clomid and liquidex as far as US laws go. However you would need a prescription to purchase legally in the US.

4)What is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) normally used for?
It is used to help females get pregnant, and can be used to stimulate testosterone production in males.

5)How does Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) work?
Hcg mimics LH(leutenizing hormone). The presence of LH causes the Leydig cells in the gonads to produce testosterone. This effect also restores the size of the testes rather quickly if they were suppressed from a cycle.

6)What should Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) be used for?
Hcg is commonly used by bodybuilders on either very heavy or very long cycles, when the hpta gets severely suppressed. Although Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can be used in almost any cycle, the benefits are most pronounced on heavy/long ones.

7)How do you take it?
You can take it IM or Sub-q.

8)Can I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) only for Pct?
No you shouldn't. It is better than nothing, but clomid or nolva are far better plans. Since Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimics lh, your body wont begin producing its own lh, as it sees no need to because test levels are high. You stop the hcg, your balls stop making test until your body begins producing adequate levels of its own lh, and that may take a while if you don't use clomid or nolvadex to stimulate lh production. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex should also be continued at least 2 weeks after Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is discontinued to avoid the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) causing problems.

9)Can I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle and when?
Yes you can, imo to best benefit from Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is to run it by the last 3-4 weeks of your steroid cycle. Do not run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if your getting signs of gyno, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will make it worst, so becarful.

10)How much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is needed during cycle and/or post cycle therapy (pct)?
For post cycle therapy (pct) a minimum of 10,000iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is needed. When you have a proper post cycle therapy (pct) planned with a serm and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and you want to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the last 4 weeks of your cycle, then you might only need 5,000iu's.
An anti-estrogen (Nolva, etc.) is to be used with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during your last 4 weeks of cycle.

11)What dose do you run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at?
Hcg is best dosed at 500iu and/or 1000iu, more than that can cause too much aromatization, and some people wont react to less than 500iu. So during the last 4 weeks of a cycle, you shoot 500iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice a week or 1000iu once a week. For post cycle therapy (pct), 500iu ed or 1000iu eod.

12)Can Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) be used w/out steroids to boost test production above baseline?
Yes. It is not recommended however. Continued use of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will desensitize the leydig cells to lh, meaning once you stop using the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as an artificial lh, you will crash bad. The natural lh production once restored by using nolvadex or clomid, may not be as effective as it once was. To boost natural test above baseline, anastrozole, nolvadex and clomid are better choices.


13)How long does Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) boost testosterone for?
Hcg can boost testosterone for up to 5 days following the last dose, although the drugs halflife is very short, and its no longer active at that point.

14)Can Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) cause gyno?
Yes. Estrogen is elevated by two ways from Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use. Primarily from the sharp rise in testosterone, which allows more testosterone to aromatize to estrogen. Secondly Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can cause a small amount of estrogen to be produced which is not from the result of aromatizing, and this is the reason that a combination of an anti aromatize such as liquidex/arimidex/letrozole and a estrogen receptor blocker such as nolvadex are ideally used. The nolvadex may also offer some additional benefit to help avoid a negative estrogen feedback to the hpta during Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy, which would otherwise slightly lessen the effectiveness of the therapy.

15)How does Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) come packaged?
You get 2 vials or amps, 1 has the powdered Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in it, and the other has a diluent in it(solvent). The diluent is typically bacteriostatic water, or sterile water w/ .09% sodium chloride. ***ending on the brand and version, the package commonly comes w/ enough diluent to make concentrations ranging from 250-10,000iu per ml.

If your package is 5000iu, and you add 1ml diluent, you have 5000iu per ml.
If you add 5ml diluent, you final mix is then 1000iu per ml.
If you add 10ml diluent, then 500iu per ml and so on.

This is simple math, and you don't wanna screw it up, know what dose you are taking!

If your package doesn't include enough diluent to make the concentration you want, you have 2 options to make it easy to accurately measure your doses.

1-buy some insulin syringes, U-100 type. On the graduated markings, the 100iu mark is equal to 1ml, the 50iu is .5ml etc. THIS DOES NOT MEAN IF YOU FILL IT TO THE 100IU MARK THAT YOU ARE TAKING 100IU OF HCG! Iu's are not a measurement of volume or weight, they are a measure of effectiveness for a desired response from specific drugs/compounds. Every compound is different. These are insulin syringes, and they are made for insulin-not hcg. Insulin is the same iu concentration per ml everytime(if its u100 type), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is not. Imagine if you made your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 10,000iu per ml. if you fill the insulin syringe up to 100iu mark, you now have 10,000iu in there! Not good. You must understand this.
So if you had 5000iu per ml, and wanted to take a 500iu shot, you would inject 10iu on the insulin syringe scale.

2-buy some bacteriostatic water off the internet, its easily found. Simply add more to dilute it to the desired conscentration. Making lower concentrations are easier and more accurately dosed. Then it can accurately be measured w/ a regular syringe.

Mix the two together, they dissolve very easily. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can be very unstable and to make sure to not shake it and let it foam.... Be careful when reconsituting it . Be gentle and run the bac water down the side of the vial not allowing to foam up... Keep things sterile folks. Unused Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can be refrigerated and is ok to use within 30 days after the initial mixing.

Remember: Store Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at controlled room temperature (59° to 86°F)(15° to 30°C). After reconstituting store in refrigerator (36° to 46°F) (2° to 8°C).

Absorption
A detectable rise in Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is seen in 2 h; peak levels are reached in 6 h and remain at this level for 36 h.

Elimination
hcg levels begin to decline at 48 h and approach baseline at 72 h.

Awesome post mate, this should be a sticky as the whole Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is definatley a topic in which so many are unsure.

Great info, much appreciated.

Merry xmas to all btw.

:xmas:
 
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