Most effective mass building SARM

[Rockymtn]

Sup fellas?
Thought I would start this quick thread for guys to weigh in on what SARM (or combo) they think is the best choice for adding MASS (with a test base of course). I know we are all different & respond differently to certain compounds, so we'll all keep that in mind too.
There are some good logs on here and anyone that hasnt checked those out should do so if looking to run a sarm, but having said that... as I can testify, a guy can spend soooooo much time reading on this site, I swear it becomes an addiction!!

 

[Roush]

Could keep it basic and stack LGD with Rad-140.
If your not on trt and don't want to further suppress yourself with exogenous test, then you could possibly blast HCG the duration of your Sarms cycle to make pct easier.
Plus one of the big benefits of Sarms is that they are not highly androgenic (like Test is) and mainly effect soft tissue androgen receptors only (i.e., muscle),, once you go throwing exogenous test in there , then you've diminished that benefit as test will effect all androgen receptors, convert to dht and estrogen as well.


^ this is just my idea from some research not experience , I'm on TRT and blast and cruise so I don't worry about pct. BUT the next cruise that I'm planning on using SARMS instead of AAS this time

 

[Rockymtn]

Roush-
So you're saying above that guys running a cycle of SARMS would be better off not mixing them with AAS.. (specifically test) is this correct? Or did I misunderstand your comment?
I'm confused because I've seen lots of posts saying it's best to have the test base with sarms.
Also,
I'm on TRT like you (doc prescribed 240mg Cyp/wk) & was just wondering if you know what SARM you're going to run next blast & what your goal is by choosing that particular sarm?
I have been thinking about trying osta & rad-140 but I'm still kinda on the fence about the whole sarm deal.
hope you've had a good new year!
Thanks for the participation in the thread ***128077;***127996;

 

[blakey]

If I was going to go mass I would go a lgd or yk 11 stacked with Mk 677 that would put on a few pounds in sure . I do love me some lgd it makes my joints feel awesome and my strength goes up after only a few days it really is awesome stuff .
Yk is a bit of a different kettle of fish I didn't see the same effect on my joints as the lgd but I definitely felt great and strong on the stuff plus its a myo inhibitor so that's always good
As for the Mk the increases in igf and gh levels speak for themselves in adding muscle

I've been talking about and using sarms for quite a while now even before I was a rep for a sarm company I've always been a fan and I definitely think they have a place in cycles and would stand up as a great option over traditional in some cases (id take lgd over var any day )

Good luck with the cycle mate

 

[TRUEGRIT]

LGD, MK2866, RAD140.

LGD/Osta would be great for Mass!

 

[Roush]

Roush-
So you're saying above that guys running a cycle of SARMS would be better off not mixing them with AAS.. (specifically test) is this correct? Or did I misunderstand your comment?
I'm confused because I've seen lots of posts saying it's best to have the test base with sarms.

to be blunt , I'm a fan of mixing everything with AAS . My pre workout contains citruline, creatine, beta alinine, AND Dbol

my main point is that one of the benefits of SARMS is that they are 'selective' androgen receptor modulators, they don't effect the whole body and all receptors, only (supposedly) soft tissue receptors (i,e, muscle) and are only mildly suppressive because of that.
So one of the benefits to them is that they can be run without having to run a testosterone base, especially for guys who do not run AAS or testosterone , Sarms can still be used. BUT again, I'll stack AAS with my breakfast, I'm just saying the benefit for other guys that don't want to run AAS, with SARMS they don't have to . they can get by running a Sarm only cycle and recover with PCT. would they be better off running a test base , sure, but a test base is best for everything (except contest prep).

^ the exception to the above, and an exception to the benefit of running a test base with SARMS, is if you were doing an AAS detox . I did one of these a year to two back, where I got off of all AAS completely , even TRT. this was to help me detox and get my Homoglobin/Hct taken care of , as well as other health factors. going off all AAS including test, i would have maintained more gains had I done this AAS detox using SARMS. they would not, as far as i know, increase or play a role in my high HCT and RBC count.
And i would not of needed to worry about Sarms suppressing my hpta, cause I'm permanately shut down anyways.

 

[Roush]

Roush-
I'm on TRT like you (doc prescribed 240mg Cyp/wk) & was just wondering if you know what SARM you're going to run next blast & what your goal is by choosing that particular sarm?

actually i would not use a SARM on a blast, just the opposite, I would use a SARM on a cruise when I'm down regulated and taking a break from AAS. I'd use the Sarm as a sort of 'bridge' to keep me anabolic while I'm off of and taking a break from compounds like Tren, dbol, Npp, deca, masteron, tbol, etc..

time off from AAS for a few months , just to refresh my receptors and give my health a break, would look something like this-

LGD - 10mg a day
Osta - 20mg a day
HGH - 4-6iu a day
Insulin - 1-3iu 4x per day
GHRH/p - mk677 or cjc
Test - 175mg a week

^ this would allow me to recover my health factors for awhile, get my HCT down, refresh my receptors, yet still stay anabolic and growing

 

[Rockymtn]

to be blunt , I'm a fan of mixing everything with AAS . My pre workout contains citruline, creatine, beta alinine, AND Dbol

my main point is that one of the benefits of SARMS is that they are 'selective' androgen receptor modulators, they don't effect the whole body and all receptors, only (supposedly) soft tissue receptors (i,e, muscle) and are only mildly suppressive because of that.
So one of the benefits to them is that they can be run without having to run a testosterone base, especially for guys who do not run AAS or testosterone , Sarms can still be used. BUT again, I'll stack AAS with my breakfast, I'm just saying the benefit for other guys that don't want to run AAS, with SARMS they don't have to . they can get by running a Sarm only cycle and recover with PCT. would they be better off running a test base , sure, but a test base is best for everything (except contest prep).

^ the exception to the above, and an exception to the benefit of running a test base with SARMS, is if you were doing an AAS detox . I did one of these a year to two back, where I got off of all AAS completely , even TRT. this was to help me detox and get my Homoglobin/Hct taken care of , as well as other health factors. going off all AAS including test, i would have maintained more gains had I done this AAS detox using SARMS. they would not, as far as i know, increase or play a role in my high HCT and RBC count.
And i would not of needed to worry about Sarms suppressing my hpta, cause I'm permanately shut down anyways.

Dude! I just want to start off by saying.. you are just such a bad ass! You always explain shit so I can understand it ***55357;***56833;! I really appreciate all the info you share on this site.
Yah, I read your post not long ago where you did this AAS detox! I think I will try this every few years if it's not too bad, it sounds like it could be hell though coming off of my TRT dose too.

One question on this... when you came off & completed the detox and everything cleared up, did you notice your HTC / RBC levels climb any faster than they did the first time previous to the detox?
Just wondering..?

 

[Roush]

One question on this... when you came off & completed the detox and everything cleared up, did you notice your HTC / RBC levels climb any faster than they did the first time previous to the detox?
Just wondering..?

Thanks for the kind words man. HCT stayed under control and i had no issues for quite awhile , running things like test with Primo or Masteron, UNTIL i decided to blast some nandrolone . I blasted NPP and Deca and that got my HCT right up there in the high range again. Well being nandrolone is used in medicine to treat anemia and increase the persons RBC , well no shit its going to raise hct on a a steroid user that is already prone to elevated RBC. dumb mistake on my part to blast it at 800mg . so lesson learned from that , I don't run nandrolone at high dosages for long periods of time anymore.