My 3rd Cycle using Test C/Anavar..looking for more definition. Suggestions?

[BurVegas]

Hello peeps,

I am new to the site but I have been reading/lurking for years. I enjoy reading everyones ideas, etc. and it has helped me in my workouts. I respect the opinions of the posters here so I am looking for some help.

Stats: 6'0 190
Age:43
BF% around 10%

My goal is to get as lean as possible for the summer and add a little muscle.


This is my 3rd cycle. The first being TS400 for 10 weeks. The second was Test E for 14 weeks. I havent cycled since last September (2012).

I've been brainstorming for a cycle to lean out a little more and enhance my definition. I'm not wanting that bulky look. Ive narrowed it down to this:

1-12 Test C 500/wk (split)
6-12 Anavar 60 ed
3-13 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250iu 2x/wk
1-17 Aromasin 12.5 eod
14-17 Clomid 50/50/50/50

Any suggestions? I also have some Test P & TS 400 as well as Nolva. I thought about the TS400 but was concerned with the bloat.

Thanks in advance!

 

[DADAWG]

diet will determine if you lean up or bulk. switch the var to the 1st 6 weeks to use while the long ester test kicks in IMO.

 

[BurVegas]

diet will determine if you lean up or bulk. switch the var to the 1st 6 weeks to use while the long ester test kicks in IMO.

DADAWG,

Would you use the test p to kick start the cycle or will that just complicate things?
Also, since you suggested the var at the beginning would it better to just skip the var all together? I thought anavar helped with the final product.

 

[fancyhuh101]

u can add var if u wish . As far as using prop to kickstart the cycle , u know best now how u will respond so u can try it . try something like 75-100mg every other day as well as the test c . the prop will kickstart it up faster while the test c kicks in , this way u can keep the var in the end . however just watch for sides because the first 4 weeks u kickstart with the prop that will be alot of test in your system . use the prop at that dose for 4 weeks then drop it and just stay on the c.

 

[BurVegas]

u can add var if u wish . As far as using prop to kickstart the cycle , u know best now how u will respond so u can try it . try something like 75-100mg every other day as well as the test c . the prop will kickstart it up faster while the test c kicks in , this way u can keep the var in the end . however just watch for sides because the first 4 weeks u kickstart with the prop that will be alot of test in your system . use the prop at that dose for 4 weeks then drop it and just stay on the c.

Fancy? Or anyone? The aromasin will suffice for the sides id think if I used the test p to kick start. How does the post cycle therapy (pct) look? I've read a MILLION different ways to do post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[fancyhuh101]

aromasin should do just fine , if u notice any sides like nipples sensativty etc then up the aromasin to every day only while u use the prop then back to every other day when u stop the prop ... post cycle therapy (pct) is ok .... but there is a strong belief that clomid and nolva work best together . thats the only thing id add . take nolva with clomid at 40/40/20/20/

 

[BurVegas]

This goes back to the millions of different opinions on post cycle therapy (pct). Of course I've read somewhere that the Nova reduces igf or something like that and it's best not to use. That being said I used nolva on my other 2 cycles.

 

[BurVegas]

Any other's advice? Thanks.

 

[BurVegas]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but I was going to start my cycle this weekend and wanted any last minute ideas or input.

 

[BurVegas]

Bump...any other suggestions are welcomed.

 

[Norsegod]

Use prop instead and/ or adex. You won't need it if you switch to prop unless you're sensitive to test, but if you aren't using adex with e then I'm guessing you're not. You could also bump up the Anavar (var) to 75-80 a day. maybe even one hundred. prop should do the trick, though.

 

[Transformation2013]

Im looking to run a very similiar cycle to you at the moment.

I am using Anavar (var) in the first 4 weeks, and the last 4 weeks, with a break in the middle to give my liver a rest. I'm hoping the Anavar (var) will help me cut up a little, whilst giving me a bit of extra strength initially whilst the test kicks in. Ive used both the Test and Anavar (var) before so I know i'm good on them though.

Most people seem to say their sweet spot with Anavar (var) lies between 75-100mg ED, but it really does depend on the quality of the Anavar (var) . It goes without saying but the better the quality then the less you need in order to achieve the same effect.

If your super concerned about getting a watery look / wanting to manage your weight gain / loss then potentially you could look to add in Adex at something like 0.25-0.5mg ED. You would need to do some more research yourself to go firm on the dosage and frequency as ive read Anavar (var) ying opinions on here. Just be aware what Adex will be doing to your Estrogen levels for the duration of the cycle

T13

 

[BurVegas]

Ok, I am finally just starting this cycle. After weeks of issues with other work related stuff, I can now allow myself a 12-16 week window to workout.

My question is this...Is it ok to hold off on the aromasin until I start feeling gyno issues (if I ever do) or go ahead and start? On my first two cycles I didnt have any issues with gyno.

My cycle settled in like this....

-to jump start my cycle I did 100 of test prop (1 cc) for 3 days straight...and now I have transitioned into eod of 100 with a cc of T400every tues and friday. I will wean off of the prop and transition to the 400 then run the 400 and Anavar (var) the last 4 weeks.

Any advice would be greatly valued and appreciated.

 

[J_Fox23]

The longest I would wait would be 2 weeks, but it is best to start it right away so you don't risk the sides.

 

[Transporter]

I personally would start the aromasin the first day of your pin and would definitely do the Var at the end of the cycle. Instead of 4 weeks I would bump the var to 6 weeks. As far as the dosage goes, that would be an individual choice since everyone here seems to have different opinions on it. Good luck with your cycle !