my b/f is currently on a new cycle taking deca test and anavar. losing my soul mate

[fullycommitedwifey]

Hi everyone,

I'm a fully committed partner I love my b/f he is currently on a new cycle taking deca test and anavar. His moods are off the chain he has become so aggressive and unpredictable I feel like Im constantly walking on eggshells he is a fifo worker and works a long swing 4/1 is there any advice on how I can help make it better. I feel like Im losing my soulmate

Thank in advance

 

[Milton]

Welcome to the forums! I am sure you will get alot of good and helpful advice on this. I hope the best for you

 

[Megatron28]

Is he taking anything to manage his estrogen levels? If you are uncertain, answer this question: has he been having erection problems? Maybe going soft during sex, losing interest during sex, or unable to get an erection? How about acne and bloating?

 

[Matt0071]

He shouldnt be like that on test and deca unless like.mega said his estrogen is off the charts ( high), and or how was his temper before cycling? If he had a bad as temper before juice will.make it 100 times worse and turn people into more of an ass
I know the feeling as when I am.other stuff "tren" my aggression gets outta control sometimes especially what I am.going through now relationship issues myself
I would personally try to at least get him.off deca and get his estrogen in check aND or drop the stuff to save your relationship or it isn't going to get no better but worse if he is already like this

 

[cybrsage]

Ask him to get a blood test done for both your and his peace of mind. My wife says I can do whatever I like provided I get routine blood tests done to see what I am doing to myself and to fix anything that starts to go wrong. I readily agreed since I feel the same way.

PrivateMDLabs.com has the Hormone Panel for Females that he can take. The female panel includes estrogen level. Too high or too low and his moods will surely suffer - and you suffer along with him. If you sign up for their newsletter before buying the test, they will send you the newsletter which includes a 15% off coupon. good for three uses a month. With the coupon, the test is only about $57. WELL worth it. It not only has estrogen on it, but testosterone levels, fasting blood sugar levels, liver functions, HPTA axis functions (which should be about zero for him due to him taking external test), and much more. Seriously, everyone should get a test done BEFORE they start a cycle, half way through a cycle, and a few weeks after the cycle ends (at the end of PCT) to see if you have returned to normal.

Beg him to get the blood test, bribe him to get it (you women know the power you have with bribery and men...use it to your advantage, if I was a woman I surely would!), whatever it takes.

 

[halfwit]

Just to add to the comments; when a woman goes on her monthly cycle, estradiol climbs by up to 300% or more. As a female, I'm sure you're all too familiar with how this can impact your state of mind and some of the physical traits that accompany it.

Poorly planned cycles which don't take controlling estradiol into account will have a very similar effect. I would either encourage him to do some reading here, or perhaps understand how his current state is affecting your relationship.

If you're okay with him using hormones, I would certainly try to help him seek education on the matter as it can get much worse as time goes on. He could develop breast tissue that lactates, lose the ability to gain and maintain an erection, develop prostate cancer, develop blood clots, and really have a difficult time recovering from all this. I'm not trying to scare anyone, but this stuff should not be taken lightly, and it has the potential to create long-term problems both physically and mentally.

My .02c

 

[carverelli]

I was going to use the menstrating woman analogy as well. Half is right, controlling e2 is the biggest battle we face during a blast or cycle. It can affect our moods in a heartbeat. Much like a woman can get irratible on her period.
Best thing in my opinion is talk to him about it without letting it escalate. I can be belligerent at times without a reason but I never ever want to hurt anyone's feelings, especially those I love.
Once he realizes he's driving you away with his demeanor, I'm sure it'll help him tone it down a notch.
The blood work idea should be done post haste. Emotions are much easier to control when hormones are balanced

 

[cbburrr]

one more vote for estrogen being the problem.
On a regular steroid cycle I'm just as nice as I could be, probably a little more romantic and sweet than I am off cycle.

 

[whoremoan]

I was going to use the menstrating woman analogy as well. Half is right, controlling e2 is the biggest battle we face during a blast or cycle. It can affect our moods in a heartbeat. Much like a woman can get irratible on her period.
Best thing in my opinion is talk to him about it without letting it escalate. I can be belligerent at times without a reason but I never ever want to hurt anyone's feelings, especially those I love.
Once he realizes he's driving you away with his demeanor, I'm sure it'll help him tone it down a notch.
The blood work idea should be done post haste. Emotions are much easier to control when hormones are balanced

i agree 100%, with me; it was alot easier knowing it was my hormones going haywire, and so i had to learn patience and self control very quick.. looking at it from a positive view i think it made me a better person and also how to really LISTEN to my body

 

[soldier74]

Hell, send him to Ology! We will straighten him out. There is a lot to learn about AAS, as you can see just from the few posts above. If he comes on this site and is open for constructive criticism, we can guide him onto the right path. Everything could be back to "normal" for you two in no time;-)
Hope the best!

 

[.Vision.]

To hell with making excuses and finding a cause for his behaviors if this is AAS induced... He's making a conscience decision each and every time he acts inappropriate..If anything is effecting his moral judgement "work,drugs,AAS,lifestyle" then maybe you should put your foot down, and stress to him what your willing to except and not expect.. No one should have to walk on eggshells for an other..Why should you have to capitulate, and surrender to his mismanagement when it pertains to his role in your relationship?

I believe in standing by the ones we love, especially during their worst, and cherishing them at their best..But, there's a line when people decided use the act of "respect" as optional, while someone else is making the relationship a priory..

My suggestions: Try to identify if there's any underlining issue taking place that he may be bottling up, seeing and recognizing what sets him off the rail is step 1#..Address these issues, make it aware that you're willing to be there for him,at the same time making it known that you refuse to tolerate or expect any destructive behavior..

AAS should NEVER be an excuses, or remotely be coincided as a culprit in which one was unable to contain themselves,whether is consequential of incidental, there's ramifications for our actions...

 

[Milton]

fullycommitedwifey
Lots of great advice from those who know/have been there etc. Hope you come back and take what you can from this. Please keep us posted.

 

[Anon44]

To hell with making excuses and finding a cause for his behaviors if this is AAS induced... He's making a conscience decision each and every time he acts inappropriate..If anything is effecting his moral judgement "work,drugs,AAS,lifestyle" then maybe you should put your foot down, and stress to him what your willing to except and not expect.. No one should have to walk on eggshells for an other..Why should you have to capitulate, and surrender to his mismanagement when it pertains to his role in your relationship?

I believe in standing by the ones we love, especially during their worst, and cherishing them at their best..But, there's a line when people decided use the act of "respect" as optional, while someone else is making the relationship a priory..

My suggestions: Try to identify if there's any underlining issue taking place that he may be bottling up, seeing and recognizing what sets him off the rail is step 1#..Address these issues, make it aware that you're willing to be there for him,at the same time making it known that you refuse to tolerate or expect any destructive behavior..

AAS should NEVER be an excuses, or remotely be coincided as a culprit in which one was unable to contain themselves,whether is consequential of incidental, there's ramifications for our actions...

Well said vision.
You nailed it with every aspect of what you said. Especially to hell with excuses. He's obviously a grown man. And there is no excuse for his significant other to feel that she has to walk on egg shells. Obviously he has a great woman if she cares enough to post here for advice.
Most women would say get screwed!!
And goodbye.

It's time for him to put his big boy pants on. If he can't handle aas. Then quit doing them.

 

[.Vision.]

Well said vision.
You nailed it with every aspect of what you said. Especially to hell with excuses. He's obviously a grown man. And there is no excuse for his significant other to feel that she has to walk on egg shells. Obviously he has a great woman if she cares enough to post here for advice.
Most women would say get screwed!!
And goodbye.

It's time for him to put his big boy pants on. If he can't handle aas. Then quit doing them.

Bingo brother!

If she resorted to any sort of online community seeking advice, then chances are she's at her end and not sure what exactly she is to do, yet still willing to compromise and understand.. Not only is that rare, but that's unique and very special.. He's very lucky to have such a person in his life.. If that's not considered a die hard, then I don't know what is..

 

[Anon44]

Bingo brother!

If she resorted to any sort of online community seeking advice, then chances are she's at her end and not sure what exactly she is to do, yet still willing to compromise and understand.. Not only is that rare, but that's unique and very special.. He's very lucky to have such a person in his life.. If that's not considered a die hard, then I don't know what is..

She's what's called a keeper.
And like you said very unique and even more rare.

I'm sure every man here will agree most women now a days are either gold diggers or just staying with their man till they find what they consider a better one. No loyalty. I wonder if the younger generation even knows what that really means now a days?
I've been fortunate to have been with mine for 24 years this month. High school sweethearts.

So I'd definitely have to say fullycomittedwifey is one in a million.

If he won't talk about it. My advice to her would be tough love. No sex. don't go out of your way to talk to him.
And if he really loves her he'll get it and eventually come to his senses. And do not let him turn it around on you. He needs to own the fact that she's feeling this way because how he is acting.

 

[soldier74]

To hell with making excuses and finding a cause for his behaviors if this is AAS induced... He's making a conscience decision each and every time he acts inappropriate..If anything is effecting his moral judgement "work,drugs,AAS,lifestyle" then maybe you should put your foot down, and stress to him what your willing to except and not expect.. No one should have to walk on eggshells for an other..Why should you have to capitulate, and surrender to his mismanagement when it pertains to his role in your relationship?

I believe in standing by the ones we love, especially during their worst, and cherishing them at their best..But, there's a line when people decided use the act of "respect" as optional, while someone else is making the relationship a priory..

My suggestions: Try to identify if there's any underlining issue taking place that he may be bottling up, seeing and recognizing what sets him off the rail is step 1#..Address these issues, make it aware that you're willing to be there for him,at the same time making it known that you refuse to tolerate or expect any destructive behavior..

AAS should NEVER be an excuses, or remotely be coincided as a culprit in which one was unable to contain themselves,whether is consequential of incidental, there's ramifications for our actions...

Wow!! Well put friend. What?? Are you a marriage counselor or something?? This is a deep response and pretty thoroughly covers all points.

 

[.Vision.]

Wow!! Well put friend. What?? Are you a marriage counselor or something?? This is a deep response and pretty thoroughly covers all points.

No marriage counselor here.. I'm just a meat head that has a very patient and understanding wife..Our marriage has had its ups and downs..A commitment isn't something you find or get, it's something you DO every day, through thick and thin, trials and tribulations.. I'll tell you what, I've learned that marriage is no sunshine, and we are two people that share the same umbrella and survive the storm together..

I'm NOT the same man I was when she first met me, we've both grew and developed into who we are today, with EACH OTHER... If my wife ever said to me "Hun,this is effecting you".. I have zero reason not to believe her..

A commitment is about selflessness..

My wife is supportive with what I do, long as it doesn't effect finances, our relationship,trust or the foundation of our marriage.. When she questions, I don't hesitate and I give due respect, by giving her the answers she needs and expects each and every single time, and vice versa!

I'm grateful to be where I am today, and not where I used to be... True story!

 

[soldier74]

No marriage counselor here.. I'm just a meat head that has a very patient and understanding wife..Our marriage has had its ups and downs..A commitment isn't something you find or get, it's something you DO every day, through thick and thin, trials and tribulations.. I'll tell you what, I've learned that marriage is no sunshine, and we are two people that share the same umbrella and survive the storm together..

I'm NOT the same man I was when she first met me, we've both grew and developed into who we are today, with EACH OTHER... If my wife ever said to me "Hun,this is effecting you".. I have zero reason not to believe her..

A commitment is about selflessness..

My wife is supportive with what I do, long as it doesn't effect finances, our relationship,trust or the foundation of our marriage.. When she questions, I don't hesitate and I give due respect, by giving her the answers she needs and expects each and every single time, and vice versa!

I'm grateful to be where I am today, and not where I used to be... True story!

Haha! Fully understood and totally agreed!!

 

[Anon44]

No marriage counselor here.. I'm just a meat head that has a very patient and understanding wife..Our marriage has had its ups and downs..A commitment isn't something you find or get, it's something you DO every day, through thick and thin, trials and tribulations.. I'll tell you what, I've learned that marriage is no sunshine, and we are two people that share the same umbrella and survive the storm together..

I'm NOT the same man I was when she first met me, we've both grew and developed into who we are today, with EACH OTHER... If my wife ever said to me "Hun,this is effecting you".. I have zero reason not to believe her..

A commitment is about selflessness..

My wife is supportive with what I do, long as it doesn't effect finances, our relationship,trust or the foundation of our marriage.. When she questions, I don't hesitate and I give due respect, by giving her the answers she needs and expects each and every single time, and vice versa!

I'm grateful to be where I am today, and not where I used to be... True story!

Much respect for you vision!!

You're a man that speaks with much wisdom.

You nailed everything again. I totally agree with everything you said about marriage. It's definitely something the husband and wife have to work at. It isn't easy. But more than worth it.
I know I wouldn't trade it for nothing.

 

[Manski]

You be telling him how his cycling makes you feel. If he feels the same way bout you as you do him he should make the right decision