My cycle, any change?

[Green_Beret]

I decided a little to change my cycle, make it shorter in one week and raise the dose of it.
In the end of it i decide to take the pyramid method and each week to decraes the dose in stepwise progression to get the test level back to the norm before start doing post cycle therapy (pct).
(Pyramid before post cycle therapy (pct) helps me to keep my wheight that gained longer, pyramid works great on me.)
My cycle is going like that:

Weeks-1-4: 30mg Naposim.

Week-1: 500mg Test-E, 250mg Deca
Week-2: 750mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-3: 750mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-4: 750mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-5: 750mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-6: 750mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-7: 750mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-8: 750mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-9: 750mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-10: 500mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-11: 500mg Test-E, 350md Deca
Week-12: 250mg Test-E.
post cycle therapy (pct):
Week-13: 2500iu HCG each five days.
Week-14: Clomid therapy.
So what do you think?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

(Pyramid before post cycle therapy (pct) helps me to keep my wheight that gained longer, pyramid works great on me.)

The act of pyramiding has no valid basis. Introducing the androgen into the body at a lower concentration and then increasing the dose doesn’t allow the body to become "accustomed" to the exogenous compounds in any way.

Furthermore, tapering off only prolongs the time it'll take to regain HPTA functioning. Taking the lower dosages causes LH suppression yet barely provides any anabolic effect, perhaps none at all! So, if you’re a person who likes to get LH suppression with minimal gains, go ahead and "pyramid."

by Cy Willson


Besides, long esters like enanthate, cypionate, or Sustanon (sust) "taper" by themselves.

 

[Green_Beret]

Thanks stonecold, i know that alredy but this is what keep my gained wheight still mine i always thought that pyramid is a bad think to do in cycle... But some how i feel the benefit of it...

 

[BakedBeans]

Thanks stonecold, i know that alredy but this is what keep my gained wheight still mine i always thought that pyramid is a bad think to do in cycle... But some how i feel the benefit of it...

You have just had some VERY good advice from SCNTO.

I suggest you take it.

If anything, you should double the dose of your first weeks shot's. It's called frontloading.

 

[alex7781]

What group GB????

 

[Green_Beret]

What group GB????

The Intelligence,
Is a spaciel classified unit in Israel, comparable to the Marines in U.S Army.
(In case you didnt know.)
But now im finnaly discharged, and i have only a memorys and fucking reserve duty every year...
why did you ask it? are you in military to?

 

[Ozzy27]

I think you posted this in another thread GB , and I told you there that front loading or tapering wasn't necessary unless it was Sustanon due to the shorter esters. Just run it 500mg ew all the way through. Peace Oz

 

[Green_Beret]

I think you posted this in another thread GB , and I told you there that front loading or tapering wasn't necessary unless it was Sustanon due to the shorter esters. Just run it 500mg ew all the way through. Peace Oz

Alex asked me in what group i am bacause of my name i guess so i told him.

I really know that but when ive done it before without reduce the dose i lost my weight n' size very fast, and when i reduced the dose i succed to keep my weight mine.

 

[alex7781]

The Intelligence,
Is a spaciel classified unit in Israel, comparable to the Marines in U.S Army.
(In case you didnt know.)
But now im finnaly discharged, and i have only a memorys and fucking reserve duty every year...
why did you ask it? are you in military to?

Yeah I am....Medical side of the house..

 

[Ozzy27]

Alex asked me in what group i am bacause of my name i guess so i told him.

I really know that but when ive done it before without reduce the dose i lost my weight n' size very fast, and when i reduced the dose i succed to keep my weight mine.

Like I always say , everyone is different and what works for some might not work for others. If it aint broke don't fix it , right?

 

[GymLift]

My suggestion:

• Week 1-12: n mg test enan/week where n=500 or whatever you want, split into twice/weekly injects
• Week 1-11: Nandrolone decanoate, lower dose than the testosterone
• hCG every 3-4 days at 300-500iu
• Start post cycle therapy (pct) two weeks after the last injection

I don't like the tapering, but it isn't going to hurt you other than limiting your gains. If there is anything that I really dislike, it is this:

2500iu HCG each five days.

This dosage of hCG isn't only unnecessary, but it can also desensitize the leydig cells, thus making your recover more difficult.

Just use hCG 300-500iu throughout the cycle and that'll keep the balls working, so that you don't need to worry about recovering them post-cycle.

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[jonk430]

yup

My suggestion:

• Week 1-12: n mg test enan/week where n=500 or whatever you want, split into twice/weekly injects
• Week 1-11: Nandrolone decanoate, lower dose than the testosterone
• hCG every 3-4 days at 300-500iu
• Start post cycle therapy (pct) two weeks after the last injection

I don't like the tapering, but it isn't going to hurt you other than limiting your gains. If there is anything that I really dislike, it is this:

2500iu HCG each five days.

This dosage of hCG isn't only unnecessary, but it can also desensitize the leydig cells, thus making your recover more difficult.



Just use hCG 300-500iu throughout the cycle and that'll keep the balls working, so that you don't need to worry about recovering them post-cycle.

I

Exactly what I was thinking about the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). 2500iu is insane IMO

 

[g1234]

2500ui every 5 days is way too much

 

[Green_Beret]

I used to take 1500 IU every week for 4 weeks.
How many IU should i take and how long at this cycle?
Meanwhile i'll do some research about this issue...

 

[jstarr37]

If you go on the web site for schering and look up pregnyl. Clearly 4 doses of HCG at 2500iu is not going to desensitize your leydig cell. I pulled the following from the dosage instructions given by organon.
For intramuscular use only. The dosage regimen employed in any particular
case will depend upon the indication for the use, the age and weight of the
patient, and the physician’s preference. The following regimens have been
advocated by various authorities:
Prepubertal cryptorchidism not due to anatomical obstruction. Therapy is
usually instituted in children between the ages of 4 and 9.
1. 4,000 USP Units three times weekly for three weeks.
2. 5,000 USP Units every second day for four injections.
3. 15 injections for 500 to 1,000 USP Units over a period of six weeks.
4. 500 USP Units three times weekly for four to six weeks. If this course of
treatment is not successful, another series is begun one month later, giving
1,000 USP Units per injection.
Selected cases of hypogonadotropic hypogonadism in males.
1. 500 to 1,000 USP Units three times a week for three weeks, followed by the
same dose twice a week for three weeks.
2. 4,000 USP Units three times weekly for six to nine months, following which
the dosage may be reduced to 2,000 USP Units three times weekly for an
additional three months.
Induction of ovulation and pregnancy in the anovulatory, infertile woman in
whom the cause of anovulation is secondary and not due to primary ovarian
failure and who has been appropriately pretreated with human menotropins.
(See prescribing information for menotropins for dosage and administration
for that drug product.)
5,000 to 10,000 USP Units one day following the last dose of menotropins.
(A dosage of 10,000 USP Units is recommended in the labeling for

As you can see these dosages are far higher then anything bodybuilders would use HCG for.