My first serious recomp cycle

Yes you will see results to this very quickly is you keep the sugars and starches to a minimum.

Please keep us posted stay hydrated.

Take pictures and measure around your different body parts and keep records. FYI this protocol with burn the fat around your organs too. and the process speeds up the longer you are at this consistently.

Thanks. Will do so.
 
You have to re learn how to eat. When you are cutting you dont get to enjoy food, you eat for fuel only. It sucks but you will get used to it. Oh and i ate 4 slices of stuffed crust double cheese double pepperoni yesterday and cake, it was my sons bday so i said fuck it, but i am not on a cut, and i can do that from time to time without it fucking me up, you shouldnt, k?
 
I'm a bit worried that I'll start looking like a concentration camp prisoner... I'm already seeing some results on the third day but I am beginning to thin out too much, are you sure my muscles aren't burnt as well ? I'm start to get flat. Is this from the lack of carbs only? Is 30gr of protein really enough to keep my muscle mass intact? I'm so worried that I won't like the results and I'll end up a skeleton :(

the Nazi's sprayed DNP on the prisoners. You got a long what to go to get there.
 
You have to re learn how to eat. When you are cutting you dont get to enjoy food, you eat for fuel only. It sucks but you will get used to it. Oh and i ate 4 slices of stuffed crust double cheese double pepperoni yesterday and cake, it was my sons bday so i said fuck it, but i am not on a cut, and i can do that from time to time without it fucking me up, you shouldnt, k?

Yes man, I know I can't enjoy food. I just have to control everything and eat to not starve. Happy BDay to him and hope you enjoyed your delicious cheat. Cheezy hot pepperoni on fire rulzz. The Tren demon would happily receive it with open arms , would it had been the real stuff.
 
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the Nazi's sprayed DNP on the prisoners. You got a long what to go to get there.

Really, they did ? Didn't know this. It would have been a excellent sanatorium to get treated for obesity for fat and lazy modern people then. Just sit and get taken care of.

not a very thoughtful thing to say Calindan considering millions of children where traumatized, suffered then died in this process........
 
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not a very thoughtful thing to say Calindan considering millions of children where traumatized, suffered then died in this process........

And you think that the US or Soviets did better? The Soviets murdered and tortured double the amount the Nazis did from their own people.. women,children,old men and whatever. People who were not in their gulags also died of starvation, sickness and misery. Yet when everyone makes a Soviet joke, no one complains, everyone tastes it good. No one thinks about the other victims? Nazis on the other hand? Painted as demons. Let's just be rational, mature and reasonable people and get over that. It was just a simple joke in reply to what Pirate Roberts said.

Anyway, I am out of this MCT diet for now and continuing with my previous diet.. sorry, but can't train properly at the gym and I did obtain good results with my previous diet as well.. so if it ain't broke it, let's not fix it. Plus I like carbs and protein and flexibility in my diet. I am really commited to doing it properly and accept the fact that time is needed. But I really appreciate the help and time of those who tried to help me do it.. I may reconsider doing it later, this tool remains in my arsenal. for now I am continuing on my old way. Thanks alot Roberts, appleton and the others.
 
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what am I chopped liver? it was good while it lasted thanks for the memories, keep us posted on your diet.
 
what am I chopped liver? it was good while it lasted thanks for the memories, keep us posted on your diet.

You don't even need mentioning my friend, you've been here and helping since the start. You're one of the "founders". We all know that. Sure, I will keep you posted. I'm consistent and dedicated. Never going to stop, want my body looking better and better. I feel excellent everyday anyway.. from Test, training and diet and the results I am getting. I mean I'm starting to love myself more and more and confidence is higher and higher. At least I got the big macs and fries out of my system and calorically compensated for and then some more from the 4 days of MCT diet. It was useful.
 
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Current diet:


1 tablespoon mct oil = 130 kcal
1 kiwi = 50 kcal / 10gr carbs
2 boiled eggs = 12gr protein / 160 kcal / 0 carbs / 10gr fats
200gr low-fat cottage cheese with a red pepper= 36gr protein / 272 kcal / 12gr carbs / 8gr fats
100gr whey protein (weider) = 80gr protein / 400 kcal / 0 carbs / 0 fats
100gr rabbit/duck liver = 29gr protein / 180 kcal / 0 carbs / 0 fats
150gr turkey breast = 45gr protein / 202 kcal / 0 carbs / 1 fats

+

150gr basmati rice = 5gr protein / 181 kcal / 38gr carbs / 0 fats - in workout days


Total intake:

Workout days: 1605kcal, ~ 207gr protein, 60gr carbs, 23gr fats, 420kcal deficit
Rest days: 1425 kcal, ~202gr protein, 22gr carbs, 23gr fats, 275kcal deficit

BMR: ~ 1700 kcal (sedentary)
TDEE: ~ 2000-2100 kcal (circuit training 4 times a week)
 
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Current diet:


1 tablespoon mct oil = 130 kcal
1 kiwi = 50 kcal / 10gr carbs
2 boiled eggs = 12gr protein / 160 kcal / 0 carbs / 10gr fats
200gr low-fat cottage cheese with a red pepper= 36gr protein / 272 kcal / 12gr carbs / 8gr fats
100gr whey protein (weider) = 80gr protein / 400 kcal / 0 carbs / 0 fats
100gr rabbit/duck liver = 29gr protein / 180 kcal / 0 carbs / 0 fats
150gr turkey breast = 45gr protein / 202 kcal / 0 carbs / 1 fats

+

150gr basmati rice = 5gr protein / 181 kcal / 38gr carbs / 0 fats - in workout days


Total intake:

Workout days: 1605kcal, ~ 207gr protein, 60gr carbs, 23gr fats, 420kcal deficit
Rest days: 1425 kcal, ~202gr protein, 22gr carbs, 23gr fats, 275kcal deficit

BMR: ~ 1700 kcal (sedentary)
TDEE: ~ 2000-2100 kcal (circuit training 4 times a week)

Not enough rabbit liver.
 
Current diet:

Total intake:

Workout days: 1605kcal, ~ 207gr protein, 60gr carbs, 23gr fats, 420kcal deficit
Rest days: 1425 kcal, ~202gr protein, 22gr carbs, 23gr fats, 275kcal deficit

BMR: ~ 1700 kcal (sedentary)
TDEE: ~ 2000-2100 kcal (circuit training 4 times a week)

you did not mention what your intake is on cheat days.
 
And you think that the US or Soviets did better? The Soviets murdered and tortured double the amount the Nazis did from their own people.. women,children,old men and whatever. People who were not in their gulags also died of starvation, sickness and misery. Yet when everyone makes a Soviet joke, no one complains, everyone tastes it good. No one thinks about the other victims? Nazis on the other hand? Painted as demons. Let's just be rational, mature and reasonable people and get over that. It was just a simple joke

On what grounds are you comparing the US as equal to or worse then Nazi Germany in terms of human atrocities committed?

Third time you've offended me, as I am a (relatively) proud US citizen.

The Soviets encamped and killed mostly dissidents- a far cry from flat out genocide. Stop posting ignorant shit.
 
On what grounds are you comparing the US as equal to or worse then Nazi Germany in terms of human atrocities committed?

Third time you've offended me, as I am a (relatively) proud US citizen.

The Soviets encamped and killed mostly dissidents- a far cry from flat out genocide. Stop posting ignorant shit.


Indians my friend. No other country or regime will ever touch the fact that Americans almost completely wiped out the Indian population in North America. They destroyed them, raped their women, killed their childen and burned their villages then took over the land that they populated for 1000 years. I don't feel sorry for Indians or any other people who are concoured by a more alpha and dominate people but yes...Americans have done at least as much damage as the Nazi's did
 
Indians my friend. No other country or regime will ever touch the fact that Americans almost completely wiped out the Indian population in North America. They destroyed them, raped their women, killed their childen and burned their villages then took over the land that they populated for 1000 years. I don't feel sorry for Indians or any other people who are concoured by a more alpha and dominate people but yes...Americans have done at least as much damage as the Nazi's did

Of course this is true, and we also loved our slavery, but there has been enlightenment in recent modernity, and this was the period I had in mind.

Your point it valid, but I don't think it is 100% fair to compare societies that are 200 years apart. Also, OP made the correlation with the Soviets during the same era, thus I assumed he was comparing the US at a similar point in time. Fair assumption, don't you think?

And, it's Native American- dick. :wink2:
 
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Of course this is true, and we also loved our slavery, but there has been enlightenment in recent modernity, and this was the period I had in mind.

Your point it valid, but I don't think it is 100% fair to compare societies that are 200 years apart. Also, OP made the correlation with the Soviets during the same era, thus I assumed he was comparing the US at a similar point in time. Fair assumption, don't you think?

And, it's Native American- dick. :wink2:

lol Ill never call them Native Americans anymore than I call the Irish, Native English or Scotts, Native Irish. Hell, I dont call black people African American either...maybe I am a dick :)
 
you did not mention what your intake is on cheat days.

Cheating happens once a month and then it's a 100gr weider protein shake + 1 kg of pizza.
I guess it's about 3k calories and 150gr of protein and loads of carbs and fats. Didn't bother to calculate, but we can figure it out pretty easily
 
On what grounds are you comparing the US as equal to or worse then Nazi Germany in terms of human atrocities committed?

Third time you've offended me, as I am a (relatively) proud US citizen.

The Soviets encamped and killed mostly dissidents- a far cry from flat out genocide. Stop posting ignorant shit.

Last time, you were a jamaican jew.

Anyway, you obviously haven't read much about WW2 and the communism era in Soviet rusia.

50 million people were killed in Russia alone by Stalin and the communist regime. Again: women,children,old men in gulags and lots of the population due to the horrible and below minimal living conditions around Soviet Russia.
When the germans first invaded Russia, they were shocked beyond limit and very merciful of the poeople they saw when they noticed what abominable living conditions they lived in, what a huge contrast there was between Europe and nthe civilised Germany and the primitive and barbarian Soviet Union, whose only purpose was to deceive, exploit,enslave and kill its population by eliminating intelectuality, aristocracy, human values and progress in favor of industrialization and the profit of 1% of the leading political class, who were 99% jews. The Soviets also murdered hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians in one of the biggest but most ignored genocides of the time. They also raped tensof times the same helpless women and young girls in Germany, even in churches.

I'm not the one who's ignorant here. And the US did more genocide with its imperalist ambiitons and invasions around the world than you'd care to admit even if presented with facts, be it by direct intervention or by turning a blind eye on other wars. All under the perfid and fake pretexts of liberalism,democracy and upholding human rights and eliminating terrorists when in reality most such interventions were the pure interests of bankers and the elite hiding behind the government.

Being a proud american is one thing, I also like the US and I'm not rushing to accuse it of anything, it has been built into a great country and empire with lots to offer to a individual. And all this has been done through the hard work of its people. But facts are facts. Read some more and stop throwing the innocence flower in the hands of murderers. The US population long ago lost its control over the governement whose only purpose now is to serve corporations and alien interests. Even though it's a good life there compared to the rest of the world, it doesn't mean things are going right and the state is the protector of freedom and humanitarian values. Things may turn very dark later on.

There's no innocent dog. All regimes and philosophies have blood on their hands. Since the winners write history, you have no way of knowing what they hide. Read Hellstorm for a detailed and legitimate description of the allies war against Europe and their crimes against helpless civilians : mothers with their babies in their hands, fathers, grandparents, the old and sick, even the animals etc. Just read and stop getting stuck in the variant that they present you , where they're the justicemakers fighting the evil nazi demons and bringing light into the world. All they wanted was nothing but power, money, a world to lead with their own rules and interests. Globalization is the first most important step and foundation towards the enslavement of the world and eliminating all true values so that the 1% can profit and kill more effectively. Eliminating countries that are too proud to submit is a absolute requirement. The fact that now things seem to be relatively stable and going normal (even if in many parts they aren't) is not a guarantee for the future.
 
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Nothing you state rings false to me. However, I still can't agree that the US didn't do any better than Nazi Germany.

Human experimentation on innocents and death camps are two things which the US is not guilty of.
 
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Every country has done some fucked up stuff at one point or another mine included we have been killing one another for centuries and I don't think it is going to stop any time soon pol pott killed more than 2,000,000 of his own people in Cambodia the Russians tried to breed men with gorillas to create super soldiers so hectic shit has gone down over time but its what we do
Its human nature we kill each other and do a good job in doing so
 
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