My first time ..., Help!

matt405

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Im 30 yrs old, I am 6'3" and i wiegh 235. This will be my first time EVER using steriods. I work out on a regular basis at home. Not super serious training, just a little here and a little there. I will be getting four bottles tomorrow. Two test bottles and two winstrol bottles. I am going to take these regardless and am mearly looking for solid advice on how to dose myself. I have 100 twenty three gage pins, and get the stuff tomorrow. That being said, Im not on a strict diet but plan on going in that direction this week. While reading some threads other people posted i got quite confused. the mg dose's people discuss dont make alot of sense to me. I know cc's.i, and if that sounds ignorant I'm sorry. And last but not least., to stack or not to stack. Im looking for maximum results but DO NOT plan on competing obviously so I just need to know if I should take them both at once and how much to take OR if I should stick to the test and finish up with winstrol. ??????????????????
 
1cc = 1ml

Your gear will have a certain amount of MG per ML/CC.

So if you had gear that was dosed at 250mg per ml and wanted to run 500mg per week.
You would shoot 2cc/ml per week...

You've ordered 4 bottles.. 2 of test and 2 of winstrol...

Ok...
How is it dosed?
How long and how much Test do you want to run per week?
It would be fine to finish with the winstrol.
I'd use it as a bridge also while going into PCT.
How long you run it depends on how the winstrol is dosed per ML.

What are your goals?
You said you aren't serious about training...
Why do you want to run a cycle then?
You said you are not on a strict diet now...
I think you should maybe wait awhile before cycling and get more serious about training and dieting before hand.
 
If U got to tell this cat all that shit, he's not ready. Seriously!!!!!! Not even serious about training??? WTF???
 
Before you run this cycle you need to research post cycle therapy (pct).
-Nolvadex
-Clomid

Also do some research on AI's.
-Aromasin, Armidex and Letro...
You may need them to control estrogen.

Look into HCG also...

I'd also get some 100 23g pins to switch to after you use the one thats attached to the syringe to draw from the bottle.

23g 1 1/2 inch for glute(usually used for glute unless you have a low BF%.I use a 23g 1inch)

23g 1inch for shoulders and quads

Use this site as a reference: http://spotinjections.com/
 
Not super serious training, just here and there?! Are you kidding me?! Get serious about your training and diet, save your gear for later. That's the best advice you'll get.
 
Okay that make's sense about the mg per ml/cc. Appreciate it greatly. I kind of figured that most everyone to reply would suggest that I hold off on getting started, but that simply is not an option at this point or any point for that matter. I will be starting up tomorrow evening. You said "if" I wanted to run "500mg" per week. Is that a normal dosage? And would that be offset on a 7 day week ? 4 days between one dose and 3 days between the other ? Is a guy suposed to medicate just before going to the gym or does it not matter ? A friend told me I should stair step up and then back down. But he is a dumbass.., and not the type I would take advice from. You asked about my goal's. Simple to obtain a better body! I know I wont be Mr Olympia, I just want to make drastic improvements at a fast rate. You ask why I would run a cycle., well because I have it comming, I already paid for it, Im SUPER pumped about getting started. I dare say NOBODY will be able to talk me out of it. Just looking for solid advice on how to cycle. Thats all. Thank's.
 
PS- I could do without the smart ass remark's. If you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all. I mearly want advice on how to get started not get made fun of thank you. Some people, I swear. After all is this a site for PRO's only or can a complete novice first timer not get real advice? YTHRASH your so right. I AM DEAD SET, and apreciate the solid advice, Thank's
 
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Dude, slow down a bit!!

You have it comming that doesnt mean you have to start right away.... Keep it around and plan correctly for it bro'

Do you have PCT?
Do you have a AI?
WTF kinda test did you order?

You need to get your shit straight!
 
PS- I could do without the smart ass remark's. If you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all. I mearly want advice on how to get started not get made fun of thank you. Some people, I swear. After all is this a site for PRO's only or can a complete novice first timer not get real advice?

They arent being smart asses. You need to be dedicated bro'. These guys are very knowledgeable peeps. It would be a good idea to treat them with some respect.
We get a lot of people wanting to jump into cycles not knowing what they are doing.
It gets annoying....
 
Research man... I cant emphasize it enough... We cant hold your hand the hole way. You should know a lot of these things that you are asking already.
 
I thought this was research................................lol. Before I started this thread I was going to just do it and guess the whole way through. I just got done doing a 6 year bid in the state prison. Not many people gona change my mind once i get i set on something. And when I said I work out here n there a little I meant to the extent of 1\one hour b4 work and one hour after work.
 
Yes we are here to help with your research...
Many of these basic things like PCT,AI's and dosage amounts have been covered time and time again. Most of the info you are looking for can be found by searching for the info in old threads and google.
 
I thought this was research................................lol. Before I started this thread I was going to just do it and guess the whole way through. I just got done doing a 6 year bid in the state prison. Not many people gona change my mind once i get i set on something. And when I said I work out here n there a little I meant to the extent of 1\one hour b4 work and one hour after work.

What are your stats?
BF%
Lifts?
 
Okay that make's sense about the mg per ml/cc. Appreciate it greatly. I kind of figured that most everyone to reply would suggest that I hold off on getting started, but that simply is not an option at this point or any point for that matter. I will be starting up tomorrow evening. You said "if" I wanted to run "500mg" per week. Is that a normal dosage? And would that be offset on a 7 day week ? 4 days between one dose and 3 days between the other ? Is a guy suposed to medicate just before going to the gym or does it not matter ? A friend told me I should stair step up and then back down. But he is a dumbass.., and not the type I would take advice from. You asked about my goal's. Simple to obtain a better body! I know I wont be Mr Olympia, I just want to make drastic improvements at a fast rate. You ask why I would run a cycle., well because I have it comming, I already paid for it, Im SUPER pumped about getting started. I dare say NOBODY will be able to talk me out of it. Just looking for solid advice on how to cycle. Thats all. Thank's.

HERES SOME ADVICE......

YOUR A F-ING IDIOT!!

But im sure you already know that ...right??:laugh3:
 
test enanthate 250mg and winstrol v 50mg. Body fat probably about 17 - 18 % and lift's .., bench max is 235 .., squat max is 650. I do alot of push ups and cardio (running and stuff). Wieghts are second to my cardio. Thanks again YTHRASH for being cool about it. I know everyone thinks Im an idiot, but as they say " it is what it is "
 
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Sometimes I think I'm to patient.....
LOL

Well dont start tomorrow...
Like I said wait till you get everything planned and in-hand.
-Cycle time
-Cycle dosage
-AI
-PCT

Hell you may not have enough gear for the cycle you decide on running...
 
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I thought this was research................................lol. Before I started this thread I was going to just do it and guess the whole way through. I just got done doing a 6 year bid in the state prison. Not many people gona change my mind once i get i set on something. And when I said I work out here n there a little I meant to the extent of 1\one hour b4 work and one hour after work.

Let me guess... your out of prison and think your a f-ing badass huh??

You really dont know how retarded you sound with the above paragraph bud:eek2:
 
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