My GH and IGF Cycle Layout (need some advice)

[Nick!]

I'm looking to do my cutting cycle in a little, but I want to plan out everything before I even spend a dime.

I see a few different ways to dose the HGH and IGF. I've seen both done twice a day, I've also seen where they're each only done once a day.

Would I be off if my plan was to do 100mcg of IGF bilaterally ed for 50 days, then take 50 days off? So my plan is to run 4iu's of GH 5 days a week on/2 days off and the IGF for 50 straight days, followed by 50 straight days off.

My plan for days that I do my shots would be...

4:30am: Wake Up

4:45am: 2iu's HGH
5:00-6-00/6:30am: Workout
Immediately following workout when I get home from workout: 1000mcg IGF, 200mcg MGF bilaterally
6:00-6:30pm: 2iu's HGH

9:00-9:30pm: Bedtime

Do I have the wrong dosing and time schedule for my shots?

As you can see, I've never tried HGH of IGF before

 

[UserAt204]

You can't dose mgf and igf at the same time. Mgf immediately post workout then igf 1-10 hours later but you don't want to dose igf and gh at same time either. Plus you need to get your actuall cycle straight first.

 

[Nick!]

You can't dose mgf and igf at the same time. Mgf immediately post workout then igf 1-10 hours later but you don't want to dose igf and gh at same time either. Plus you need to get your actuall cycle straight first.

I understand this, that's why I'm looking to you guys for advice. I've found A LOT of different topics on how to use HGH and IGF, so I just wanted to get my injection times down before I do anything.

Can anyone offer the best way to time my doses?

 

[Nick!]

Last question...

I'm reconstituting IGF and MGF with .06% Acetic Acid and HGH with Bacteriostatic Water...correct?

 

[nate212]

I would play around with the GH dose. Try all first thing in the am, split it up early am dose then a single dose immediately prior to going to sleep. If I were doing IGF i would dose it right after lifting with a load of short chain protein (like an isolate) along with bcaa's and a good carb source. I'm still gathering information on IGF but as of right now thats what I would do. USER probably has more information on that than I.

I'll tell you what makes the most sense to me for the GH: First dose about 3am, second dose about 8 or 9am, then dose some ghrp6/cjc prior to sleeping. I'm not motivated enough to wake up at 3 for that shit though. Would this make much difference? probably not but i like the physiology here.

I wouldn't make it too complicated, either do your full dose in the morning (this would allow possibly for a natural pulse with deep sleep) or split it up am/qhs

All that being said, i think GH in a 23 year old is a bad idea. The male brain does not fully mature until 25. The medial clavicular physeal plate (growth plate) does not close in many males until 24 or 25. Furthermore, you already have plenty floating around. Wait until 30 for bang for your buck.

 

[Nick!]

I would play around with the GH dose. Try all first thing in the am, split it up early am dose then a single dose immediately prior to going to sleep. If I were doing IGF i would dose it right after lifting with a load of short chain protein (like an isolate) along with bcaa's and a good carb source. I'm still gathering information on IGF but as of right now thats what I would do. USER probably has more information on that than I.

I'll tell you what makes the most sense to me for the GH: First dose about 3am, second dose about 8 or 9am, then dose some ghrp6/cjc prior to sleeping. I'm not motivated enough to wake up at 3 for that shit though. Would this make much difference? probably not but i like the physiology here.

I wouldn't make it too complicated, either do your full dose in the morning (this would allow possibly for a natural pulse with deep sleep) or split it up am/qhs

All that being said, i think GH in a 23 year old is a bad idea. The male brain does not fully mature until 25. The medial clavicular physeal plate (growth plate) does not close in many males until 24 or 25. Furthermore, you already have plenty floating around. Wait until 30 for bang for your buck.

Thanks bro, I'll do it all in the am and see how that works!

 

[nate212]

certainly. i am interested in the possible synergy between the IGF and GH. will probably try it out at some point. if you have not started the gh already i would recommend the following (this brilliant information was passed to me by a very muscular handsome fighter haha): start with 1iu for first week and titrate up increasing to 2iu second and so on until you reach target dose. this will help with the fluid retention, peripheral compressive neuropathy symptoms and early lethargy. true story

 

[Nick!]

certainly. i am interested in the possible synergy between the IGF and GH. will probably try it out at some point. if you have not started the gh already i would recommend the following (this brilliant information was passed to me by a very muscular handsome fighter haha): start with 1iu for first week and titrate up increasing to 2iu second and so on until you reach target dose. this will help with the fluid retention, peripheral compressive neuropathy symptoms and early lethargy. true story

Wow, good to know! I definitely would've started with 4iu's on day one, and been retaining all the water.

I'll do just as you said and start with 1iu/day for the first week, then titrate up by 1iu/day/week until I get to my desired dose of 4iu's/day. So, after a month, I'll get to my 4iu's/day unless I decide to increase it after a few months.

Thanks bro!

 

[UserAt204]

Mgf is reconstituted in bac water only igf uses AA

 

[nate212]

wanted to talk to you about some post cycle ideas when coming off the GH

 

[Nick!]

Mgf is reconstituted in bac water only igf uses AA

OK, thanks!

Will the MGF last me 2 weeks after reconstituting?

The reason I ask is because it comes shipped to me in a 2mg vial.

Thanks!