my idea of precontest cycle....:)

[grossoetirato]

i have a contest on the end of november...
i think to start on 12 of september..so 10 weeks

weeks 1-9 boldenone 400
weeks 1-5 primobolan 200
weeks 6-10 wintrol desma 100 eod
weeks 1-10 4 ui hgh split in 2 shot everyday
weeks 1-10 50 mg provirno split in 2

what do you think about that?

i have to gain quality and density...

 

[hardpr]

imo eq takes longer then 8 weeks to really work. no test in this cycle?. what are your stats and exp

 

[grossoetirato]

i'm 33, 178cm 83 kg at 4,5 bf
I have to compete as bodyevolution is a category with tollerance +6
i'm going without test cause i don't want to gain too much..i need amazing quality

 

[Cobra Strike]

i'm 33, 178cm 83 kg at 4,5 bf
I have to compete as bodyevolution is a category with tollerance +6
i'm going without test cause i don't want to gain too much..i need amazing quality

Hate to say it but your really looking like a retard right now...

First of all you have to have test....HAVE TOO!!!!

If your worried about gains then lower dosages and diet properly

Bold is best run at 12 weeks minimum....I would switch that to mast though

And hgh can take up to 4-6 months before anything is noticed....it would be a waste to take it for only 10 weeks. It also should be started well before a cycle so the synergistic effects it has with test can occur.

How many cycles have you done?

 

[grossoetirato]

i have done many cycles, last cycle was win+primo for 6 week on april for a contest in june..
i agree with you regarding use of test..but my coach always is reluctant in using it for the inibiton of hpta etc etc...

so i think is better start from now hgh and bolde start on the 15 of august..so it will be 14 week to the contest

 

[coltmc45]

Your coach is an idiot. ANY compound shuts you down. You need test in every cycle bro.

 

[grossoetirato]

i agree with you, he is very good for the diet and the training but not too good about anabolics supplements..

 

[grossoetirato]

in case of using test...the better choice can be sustanon right? cause the water retention is less than using enantate or cipionate....
and in your opinion where will be better start with sustano?and about the dose, 250 mg every 10 days could be ok?
many thanks

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I hold more water with sustanon.

you need to run a really low dose of test and drop it 3 weeks before the show, and get some proviron if you want your dick to work those last 3 weeks.

 

[grossoetirato]

I hold more water with sustanon.

you need to run a really low dose of test and drop it 3 weeks before the show, and get some proviron if you want your dick to work those last 3 weeks.

thank you....so what is your opinion?
test enantate? 250mg every 10 days?could work?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

yea that should be enough. you have to stop the GH before the show as well, or you will hold water.

as everyone else pointed out already, the dosages and length of other compounds are worthless.

 

[grossoetirato]

yea that should be enough. you have to stop the GH before the show as well, or you will hold water.

as everyone else pointed out already, the dosages and length of other compounds are worthless.

thank you...but in what sense the period in red?

 

[grossoetirato]

why you said that the dosages and length of the other compounds are worthless????in what sense?

 

[grossoetirato]

....some more help?

 

[liftingbig123]

I'm currently 10 weeks out from my first show and my cycles gunna look like this:

Week 10-2: tren E 600mg
Week 10-2: test prop 100Eod
Week 6-1: oral Winstrol (winny) 50ed
Week 8-2: masteron 100eod
Week 5-1: thinking of adding mayb clen or proviron or arimidex, alll reccomended by my guy but figured that would b a shit load of chemicals in me lol

 

[grossoetirato]

I'm currently 10 weeks out from my first show and my cycles gunna look like this:

Week 10-2: tren E 600mg
Week 10-2: test prop 100Eod
Week 6-1: oral Winstrol (winny) 50ed
Week 8-2: masteron 100eod
Week 5-1: thinking of adding mayb clen or proviron or arimidex, alll reccomended by my guy but figured that would b a shit load of chemicals in me lol

my cycle will be 12 week:
1-10 bolde 400/week
1-9 250 test enat every 9 days
3-8 primobolan 200/week
9-12 winstrol 100 mg eod
3-12 proviron 50 mg/day
and maybe 9-12 200 mg tren A /week

what do you think about it?

 

[liftingbig123]

my cycle will be 12 week:
1-10 bolde 400/week
1-9 250 test enat every 9 days
3-8 primobolan 200/week
9-12 winstrol 100 mg eod
3-12 proviron 50 mg/day
and maybe 9-12 200 mg tren A /week

what do you think about it?

first off stop any injects a week out from the contest. run orals up the contest. bump the EQ dose to at least 600. Swap out the test enath for prop. primo u could probs save some money and do without it unless it works well for u. proviron run til the show ( i was told to do so). and i would def do tren in there at 100mg Eod. I think trens extremely important in there

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

^^^ sounds like a plan

 

[grossoetirato]

first off stop any injects a week out from the contest. run orals up the contest. bump the EQ dose to at least 600. Swap out the test enath for prop. primo u could probs save some money and do without it unless it works well for u. proviron run til the show ( i was told to do so). and i would def do tren in there at 100mg Eod. I think trens extremely important in there

ok, thank you
..but..what about winstrol?

 

[grossoetirato]

what is body evolution? You're 180lbs so i'm hoping your pretty lean already as 12 weeks isn't a great prep. Typically 16-20 weeks is the amount of time you need to prep properly.

I say hope your pretty lean because saying you are 4-5% BF is total bullshit. No one is walking around at that BF level all the time. And if you are that already, you are in contest shape already and you just need to maintain that look for the next 12 weeks, which you aren't gonna be able to do.

You need a new coach.

ahahah...I had a contest on the 11 of june..then i have had only 6 cheat meals on the sunday......so in the contest i was at 3,5%..now i'm on 4,5%..diet bro..and i can do it...now i'm in shape ok, but i want more density and get more ripped for the show...body evolution is the same as ifbb bodybuilding classic