First cycle I was on test enanethate for 2 months. With deca 250 and tren 200. I switched to andropen 275 and ran all 3 for another 2 months. Also at the start of my cycle I was on GH for 2 months. PCT... Taking hcg. Equal time off. IDE like some Advice to what would be most beneficial. First cycle was all BD. My stuff was made in 05. So I was told it was good. What's even better?? Moneys not an issue. What should I be tAking?? I'm not very knowledgable. A friend with knowledge guided me through my first cycle.
Need 2nd cycle advice.
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stilltryin
digging out of a hole
haha, funny guy. Your friend dosent know much if you are taking deca,tren and HGH in FIRST cycle. What were your gains like. Have you done a post cycle therapy (pct) and how long you been off?
stilltryin
digging out of a hole
also if you are not very knowledgable you should not be taking steroids, you cant expect other people to give you good info all the time. They might be stressed, upset at the time they give you advice so it may not be as good as expected. I have spent the last 2 years reading and I still and not 100% on my next cycle. Im very interested in your gains.
LAstly I posted a thread asking about HGH for 3 months, all I got was it should be ran longer. I got an IFBB pro friend and he said the same thing but his reason was because it takes so long to see the effect so you running it for 2 months might have been useless, dont know for sure though
LAstly I posted a thread asking about HGH for 3 months, all I got was it should be ran longer. I got an IFBB pro friend and he said the same thing but his reason was because it takes so long to see the effect so you running it for 2 months might have been useless, dont know for sure though
3J
Super Moderator
<---- that's pretty much what your "friend" did to you.. tren is a harsh compound.. should be ran at somewhere like your 5th cycle... running a cycle for four months is horrible, especially as first cycle.. running anything more then test as your first cycle is horrible..research is key my friend
I was 135 to start and I gained 32 lbs. And a lot of strength. GH really did nothing like you said. Tren is harsh. Fuck I felt like shit everyday and just some shorty sleeps. I took Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle too. The4 moth cyle was my decision. He also didn't recomend tren. I want to cycle again in 4 months. Nothing like the first. So suggestions??
stilltryin
digging out of a hole
Wow and I mean WOWW. You started at 135? How old are you? 15? I will not give advice to little kids who cant be bothered to train hard and eat right and jump on the juice immediately. I was like this once my friend. I have learnt my lesson.
Like JJJ said, first cycle should have been Test only. Also are you on post cycle therapy (pct) now. Answer the questions and dont lie about your age, we are here to help you, there is stuff out there that can give you 10-15lbs gains in a few months and much safer than steroids. Reply back and Il help you out for sure
????? Why would you assume I'm a kid? Im 22. Why would I lie?? That wouldn't get me Anywhere. I eat properly and a lot. My metabolism is just too fast. I was that weight since was like 17 or so. I cycled mainly to gain strength in my back from an injury to return to work. I realize my first cycle wasn't the best but it's done
stilltryin
digging out of a hole
true whats done is done, HOWEVER many people lie so they can get advice even though they are not ready to cycle. Also I assumed you are a kid because of what you way, I didnt mean any offense bro. Also Iv heard that so many time "my metabolism is too fast" haha, that phrase is so outrated. I was EXACTLY like you except I weighed abit more. You can argue with me if you want but I promise you there will be bros here who will back me up because I am not lying. NO CHANCE ARE YOU EATING RIGHT.
There is a HUGE difference when you think you are eating like a monster and a REAL VISIBLE difference when you write down what you eat for the next 2 weeks WITHOUT CHANGING YOUR DIET TO MESS WITH THE RESULTS and then work out exactly how many calories you are eating everyday. I PROMISE YOU YOU WILL BE UNDEREATING. There is no WAY ON EARTH you are eating alot and weigh 135 so dont tell me you got fast metabolism.
Also after your cycle finished, what weight have you retained and how long have you been off and also have you done a PCT.
If I was in your shoes I would start from scratch again and consider the next cycle as the first one again since I think you made a mess of this first one. You obviously dont know what your doing. I would say that a Test base 500mg of propionate/week with an anti i such as letrozole or my new favourite exemestane ran on cycle along with some creatine and maybe a HGH booster (not HGH but something like arginine/glutamine stack which is some studies has proven to increase HGH levels even though there is an argument on PP that this is not so, or the new PP product GLPC which I havnt tried). I think this would be solid, after cycle take a proper post cycle therapy (pct) and add some tribulus terratis which will support natural test and you will be good to go IMO.
PS: The arginine/glutamine has worked for me before although I may get some stick from the bros for this
I've always had stomach problems which never helped. On cycle these problems were close to gone. What is arginine and glutamine?? As far as post cycle therapy (pct). I go twce a day and taking hcg. I feeel fine so far, 2 weeks off now. I'm Almost out of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) actually and might have an issue getting more. I have to ask. What are the chances of seeing a doctor being honest about the cycle and saying I need Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to bring up my test levels.. Heard of anyone having any luck seeing a doctor?
alumni
Opposite of a Sociopath
Im not gonna bash you brotha,
That cycle sounded harsh, 8-10 weeks is ideal for a cycle with a 1-2 week rest inbetween post cycle therapy (pct) (depending on compunds ran)
But dont be fooled! running a cycle out to 20weeks is not so bad cycles tend to stall after 8-10 weeks but come back by the end of the 20th week, I ran 20 weeks for my first cycle, I am finishing post cycle therapy (pct) and my natty levels are doing very well, I am 27 years old and every body recovers a lil differently.
For now on I will run 8-10 week cycles, currently I am on 4iu's ED of RHGH and will run that for 6 months, im only 2 weeks into GH and much more vascular than ever!
here is my idea for my 2nd cycle;
* Test C. or P. 500mg EW
* Dbol 40-50 mg ED week 1-4
* Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 200iu's 3x week
* Proviron
* Prami .50MG ED
* Aromasin .25MG ED
* Var. week 4-10 80mgED
1-2 week break...PCT
Of course by this time I will be finishing up my last 3 months of GH which I will then run 10iu's 3x's EW post work out. Right now I do 2iu's AM and 2iu's PWO for a total of 4iu ED.
That cycle sounded harsh, 8-10 weeks is ideal for a cycle with a 1-2 week rest inbetween post cycle therapy (pct) (depending on compunds ran)
But dont be fooled! running a cycle out to 20weeks is not so bad cycles tend to stall after 8-10 weeks but come back by the end of the 20th week, I ran 20 weeks for my first cycle, I am finishing post cycle therapy (pct) and my natty levels are doing very well, I am 27 years old and every body recovers a lil differently.
For now on I will run 8-10 week cycles, currently I am on 4iu's ED of RHGH and will run that for 6 months, im only 2 weeks into GH and much more vascular than ever!
here is my idea for my 2nd cycle;
* Test C. or P. 500mg EW
* Dbol 40-50 mg ED week 1-4
* Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 200iu's 3x week
* Proviron
* Prami .50MG ED
* Aromasin .25MG ED
* Var. week 4-10 80mgED
1-2 week break...PCT
Of course by this time I will be finishing up my last 3 months of GH which I will then run 10iu's 3x's EW post work out. Right now I do 2iu's AM and 2iu's PWO for a total of 4iu ED.
alumni
Opposite of a Sociopath
I told my doc I use Gear he just sent me to and Endo Doc, thats their specialty if your levels are off they will only do whats best to recover to natty levels of your age stats.
that may be drugs like prami cabaser or nolvadex, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) may even be an option. I wouldnt count on them being your juice supplier.
My endo is there so I know what my body's chemistry is doing, if it gets out of hand we fix it.
3J
Super Moderator
having someone add more then one compound per cycle exp is bad advice... cuz if something goes wrong, u have no idea what caused it.. i'd go with EITHER the dbol or the var
but i just realized this guys done everything on his first cycle... lol
alumni
Opposite of a Sociopath
Yeah I hear you brotha, I like dbol for the blow up kick start and the Anavar (var) for the hardening leaning effects...oh and I meant 12.5mg ED of Aromasin 25mg ED made my joints sore.
Oh yeah and this is my idea for MY 2nd cycle. Was just sharing with him my 2nd cycle that I will run in 2 and a half months.
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