need advice on a sus, eq cycle

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Let me start with this is my first cycle. Got some sus 250 been doing for about 2 weeks. Was gonna get some test enanthate and dude gave me equipoise. so now i got two bottles. was gonna do the susu then move over to the enth and just roll with that for 12 weeks. now i got this eq and wondering would i be better off with doing sus 250 and eq for whole cycle. any advice is appreciated
 
if i do go with the sus, eq was thinking of doing 1 shot of each, twice a week. is that to much on the eq, would i be better off doing the sus 250 twice a week and taking the eq once a week? also haven't got the 2nd bottle of sus yet so was wondering if it would be better to move to test enth instead. any advice is app, i'm brand new at this
 
sust is good to start off because of the fast acting prop, do the eq every shot wether its Sustanon (sust) or ent, do some research steroid profiles
 
Stats 5' 9" 175lbs 27yrs
The eq is 300ml china star, doesn't look vet grade
 
oh and been working out for about 5yrs, and have put on about 35lbs from it, needless to say i'm trying to bulk here, and have been on a plaetu for about a year where my gains are just so fckin slow, i train my ass of for about 45 min of solid weights 5 times a week with very little cardio, i eat a five to eight times a day, i eat pretty clean but not at all afraid of carbs, or some fat. maybe this is a little long but to much is better than being to shot and not getting good advice, app the help guys
 
What exactly do you have? How many bottles of each? I would hold the eq for another cycle if you have enough gear to carry you through without it.
 
I started the eq this morning. Got one bottle of sus, getting another sus or enth next week though, and got 2 bottles of eq. So you think I should just hit the sus by itself for a whole cycle. I'm not lookin to be on a mag or try to compete, i just wanna get bigger 200lbs and have some definition. Will the combination of sus and eq get me bigger than doing the sus alone. I wasn't palnning on doing the eq, but i eneded up with two bottles of it insted of the test enth i was trying to get. I was just gonna run the sus and switch to enth in a week b/c it was supposed to be there and the sus was a ways out and only having half my cycle made me nervous. Oh, and should I inject both shots in the same ass cheek each time or do one on each side, i'm not real enthused about shooting in deltoids
 
if i goto enth would that mess up my test levels since the sus is 1 short, 2 med, and 1 long and the enth is 1 long ester
 
dont do the eq by itself, and make sure you do less eq then the sus, or test e.
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I would keep the eq a little lower than the test, but I don't think that it is absolutely necessary. That's a good rule of thumb with deca to avoid any sexual dysfunction, but I've seen a fair share of guys run cycles with more equipoise than test. They didn't overdue it, but I have seen several cycles where somebody runs 500mg test with 600mg equipoise weekly.

I believe that it would be better if you just stuck with Sustanon 250 throughout the cycle, instead of trying to switch to Test E. I've never switched compounds in the middle of a cycle, but I would imagine that if you had to, then you should wait until about week 4 or 5 to switch because that's when the long esters in Sustanon kick in.
 
Sust and EQ is a very good stack you should just run them the whole cycle, Im about to start the same cycle... cant wait
 
well got some ore gear, thinking of running the sus at 650mg week and eq 600 a week, did math and if i took sus to 700 a week woould just take one less shot out of my cycle, am i beeter taking a little less and running a little longer or more for shorter,
 
I would stay with the sus and eq never mind the test e unless you have to.In the future try to get everything you need before you start. I say this from past experience.750susWK 600 eq will be a very good 12 week cycle.I find the sus gives me less bloat and water retention than testc,teste.You are adding the eq which will further add to the hardning of the muscle which is really what you want.You are not going to compete so lets be real you want a little more size and looked ripped and thats what this cycle will do if diet and your work out is in place.Try to inject and i know its hard at first to change the site its very important.I only inject 1cc at a time but you might want to think about that aswell that would mean you have to inject in your delts which is simple ounce you get over the fear and in other areas also.So every shot would be 1cc in rt cheek then 1cc in Lt cheek you get the idea.Just my opinion on what i do.
 
I'm currently taking 750mg Sustanon and 600mg Equipoise weekly. I inject one ml of each three times a week and put both in one syringe. I don't know if it's the EQ or what, but the injections are literally PAINLESS. Even the day after, I damn near forget that I even did an injection. I rotate between my delts and my quads.
 
lookin said:
I'm currently taking 750mg Sustanon and 600mg Equipoise weekly. I inject one ml of each three times a week and put both in one syringe. I don't know if it's the EQ or what, but the injections are literally PAINLESS. Even the day after, I damn near forget that I even did an injection. I rotate between my delts and my quads.
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Yah sometimes things are like that depending on the compound and who made it.No problem there.I would rotate your shots a little more.You should try the triceps and dont forget you still have your ass cheeks.do your tris with 1 ml and switch to the other side with 1 ml.keep the shots rotating all the time.sounds like you are doing a good job with the pin.:)
 
i was injecting both with one needle and ended up being about 2 1/3 ccs (decided on 650 sus and 600 eq did math and that will go 13 weeks). my left ass cheek is crazy swollen and hurts like shit when i sit or walk. its like the lump got to be a 3" x 3" inch red bump on my ass. its never happened like that before, i mean i am sore but not like this. was wondering if thats ever happened to anyone else. i decided to take the advice here and just take the shots with 2 needles and rotate sites, but the delts is some painful shit man, mainly the sus the eq isn't so bad but it hurt like shit to put my arm up for a week. anyone know of other places to rotate to, i'm gonna do quads tomorrow, but with my ass cheek all sore i'm a little afraid to go there again for a couple weeks. what length is good for delts and quads
 
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i had same problem with my ass swelling. it was about 1/3 of my ass.
i got some good advice from a bro on another board. heat oil with blow dryer first. shoot it in slowly and dont move the needle around. after injection you massage area with a warm wash cloth.

make sure your injections are sterile.

my 2cents
 
should i move to 23g needles, i did quads today, didn't hurt much until bout 6hrs later now my legs are sore as shit. i gotta do legs in morning and i think im gonna throw the bar on my back and bust my ass, cause they are crazy fucking sore. its like wherever i shoot just fucks working that part for like 3 days after. any advice
 
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