need advice whether i can use gear safely

[zacrob23]

Hey everybody, i am 24 yrs and have suffered lower t than normal but seems to have got itsel itself up to normal range according to the endo....they diagnosed me with hypogonadism when i waz like 18, but ran out of insurance and didnt get it treated....now have insurance and seems tqo have corrected itself

The lab work says total is 358, free test is 12.49(scale if 5.0-21.0), both fsh and lh levels says are normal at 6.43 and 4.77(doesnt give me a range for these)...

I have a very difficult time gaining muscle/strength and losing bf...always tired

I want to do a cycle of test but the guy thats helping me says he wants me to do hcg for 1 month and take a month off and see if i feel any different

 

[ilovejuice]

Hcg is not going to do much, I think u need to post up your diet n workout routine.lots of guys on here that can help u ,,,maybe on planning a cycle if thats wat u want. but diet n working out is the main key to all of this.

 

[ilovejuice]

Oh n welcome to ology.

 

[BigFella]

Hey everybody, i am 24 yrs and have suffered lower t than normal but seems to have got itsel itself up to normal range according to the endo....they diagnosed me with hypogonadism when i waz like 18, but ran out of insurance and didnt get it treated....now have insurance and seems tqo have corrected itself

The lab work says total is 358, free test is 12.49(scale if 5.0-21.0), both fsh and lh levels says are normal at 6.43 and 4.77(doesnt give me a range for these)...

I have a very difficult time gaining muscle/strength and losing bf...always tired

I want to do a cycle of test but the guy thats helping me says he wants me to do hcg for 1 month and take a month off and see if i feel any different

You T is horribly low for someone your age. Your goal should be to do whatever you have to do to get legal, subsidised testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). If you have to drive your T lower so that you qualify you can get plenty of advice here as to how to do it. I'm an old cunt (61) and I'm happy at 1400 (on TRT). And I wouldn't choose to be ANY lower, thank you!

 

[zacrob23]

Thanks....is the test that low? Doc says its normal but i am not sire....

Workouts consist of 4-5 days per week, about 1hr, lift as heavy as possiblecompund exercises...4 setssof 8....diet is not terrible, have used both high protein/med carb, right now i use low/mod protein and no diff in strength

Weight is at 260 @ 25%bf

 

[BigFella]

The doc doesn't know what T levels should be in young men. Believe it or not there is not a body of evidence that can give a guideline. In the absence of numbers docs sometimes fall back on "how do you feel?" (Shock, horror).

Treat yourself. Get on a conservative injected testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) schedule, get 3J to give you a diet (they save you money) and you will look five years younger in six months.

 

[dsa8864667]

The doc doesn't know what T levels should be in young men. Believe it or not there is not a body of evidence that can give a guideline. In the absence of numbers docs sometimes fall back on "how do you feel?" (Shock, horror).

Treat yourself. Get on a conservative injected testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) schedule, get 3J to give you a diet (they save you money) and you will look five years younger in six months.

What do you dose your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at?

 

[crazyfmike]

Hey everybody, i am 24 yrs and have suffered lower t than normal but seems to have got itsel itself up to normal range according to the endo....they diagnosed me with hypogonadism when i waz like 18, but ran out of insurance and didnt get it treated....now have insurance and seems tqo have corrected itself

The lab work says total is 358, free test is 12.49(scale if 5.0-21.0), both fsh and lh levels says are normal at 6.43 and 4.77(doesnt give me a range for these)...

I have a very difficult time gaining muscle/strength and losing bf...always tired

I want to do a cycle of test but the guy thats helping me says he wants me to do hcg for 1 month and take a month off and see if i feel any differen

HCG will shut you down just like test only it clears really fast but does shut you down, so IMO there is ZERO point to run HCG.

 

[zacrob23]

The doc said if i started this early i may become not fertile and testicular atrophy is possible....

 

[zacrob23]

The reason he was gona have me run hcg was to see if it could stimulate my body to start maling more test....he was worried about my body not recovering after a test cycle

 

[zacrob23]

I really dont know too much on a test cycle....hell idk even where to get the shit....does it need to be refrigerated?? Is ther a kit with needles? All in one deal

 

[zacrob23]

I found one site on the net but i just want to make sure i get it from a legit place and not get arrested or some shit

 

[zacrob23]

Hopefully i can get some def answers....idk what to do

 

[zacrob23]

Anybody??

 

[zacrob23]

So what wwould my doses be? Like i said i have no idea how to get it

The doc doesn't know what T levels should be in young men. Believe it or not there is not a body of evidence that can give a guideline. In the absence of numbers docs sometimes fall back on "how do you feel?" (Shock, horror).

Treat yourself. Get on a conservative injected testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) schedule, get 3J to give you a diet (they save you money) and you will look five years younger in six months.

 

[BigFella]

What do you dose your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at?

Thanks for asking - because you did I just checked and found that I've been wrong for a while: I thought I was dosing 90mg E3D, it's actually 125mg E3D = 290mg per week.

Edit: Wrong. I was right first off - 125mg of Test E, which roughly equals 90mg Testosterone.

But I've been reading more of your posts and I'm thinking more than ever that diet is going to be a bigger factor than T for you. And the lower you can get your bodyfat, the better your T will be . . .

Diet isn't hard, BTW. (I must listen to myself sometimes.)

 

[zacrob23]

Thanks man....i have dieted real hard via dave vignasse and got down to 219,i had to diet extremely hard and cardio....still had the man boobs but was a lot leaner....about 2.5 years ago i weighed 319...my teat has always been on the lower side but never thought too much about it....even dieting hard i still strugled. With tiredness, bf, man boobs, sexual performance....muscle/strength gains

Thanks for asking - because you did I just checked and found that I've been wrong for a while: I thought I was dosing 90mg E3D, it's actually 125mg E3D = 290mg per week.

Edit: Wrong. I was right first off - 125mg of Test E, which roughly equals 90mg Testosterone.

But I've been reading more of your posts and I'm thinking more than ever that diet is going to be a bigger factor than T for you. And the lower you can get your bodyfat, the better your T will be . . .

Diet isn't hard, BTW. (I must listen to myself sometimes.)

 

[juced_porkchop]

The doc said if i started this early i may become not fertile and testicular atrophy is possible....

thats going to happpen regardless if your on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) unless you do bursts of HCG while in hrt.

Look if you go on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) it means your body shuts down further and your to be on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for life ( a shot every week ) but taking extra would keep levels up and you may feel better.

so it depends what YOU want. if you dotn mind shots rest of yoru life go for it. your test is not very low. I personally would want mine atleast 2-3X that but still, you have it in there.

up to you really.
you already know you had issues so you can go on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) if the doc is willing.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I really dont know too much on a test cycle....hell idk even where to get the shit....does it need to be refrigerated?? Is ther a kit with needles? All in one deal

DOC! FROM YOUR DOC!
yoru talking about your doc giving you HCG we are talking about your doc giving you TEST, or go find another doc thats is an "ENDO"

 

[zacrob23]

DOC! FROM YOUR DOC!
yoru talking about your doc giving you HCG we are talking about your doc giving you TEST, or go find another doc thats is an "ENDO"

Ive been seeing an endo, he wont help me at all....says my teat is fine....a friend of mine recommended tring hcg to see if that would stimulate my body natty test then see if i could go on cycle...where i live the the closest endo besides the one i use os 2 hrs away