Need Advise Ladies, Q for Vets

[AngerOut]

Hi Ladies,
A friend of mine who I train with is thinking about doing Stenox (Halo). She is a hardcore FBB, has done many cycles, and has been training and competing for many (11+) years. She asked my opinion and from what I know Stenox is very androgenic and I don't see or hear about many females running this. I advised her against it, but I told her I would poke around to get other opinions. So what does everyone think? Any experiences with Stenox?
AngerOut

 

[supergirl]

HARSH.. way harsh.. but can be doable if very careful!! for example, halo can be compared to tren (which i have used and survived with no sides lol) however, if too much is taken, virilization will come fast and hard!! Halo is really great for pre-contest.. i know of only 2 women that have used halo with success. Basically 2 weeks out, they would toss in some halo aka stenox (2mgs a day ED) and their result would be extreme hardness, strength gain and loss of bodyfat which gets harder and harder to lose the lower in bf% you go... halo will push ya lower for sure.. HOWEVER, it seriously suppresses estrogen because it is such a harsh androgen so there may be a rebound, or like what happened to me, her estrogen may stay suppressed and she may need to use andriol to get her hormones back to normal..
also along with halo can come severe acne and hair loss.. anytime a female uses a harsh androgen like this, there can be some serious sides..
IT is NOT to be taken lightly.. but you say she is hardcore, so i would assume she knows her body very well.. so she will know what to monitor and look out for.. at the first sign of virilization, it MUST be stopped or the sides can be permanant!!!

also keep in mind that that halo is a 17alpha alkylation so it will be VERY VERY harsh on the liver!! I do not suggest she use any other oral while on halo and i also suggest she use some silymarin to help her liver while on!

But it can work! It can get her hard as a rock and vascular.. but it is scary imo and she needs to tread lightly!!!

Best of luck and do let me know if she does use it and how she does!!!

luv super

 

[AngerOut]

Thanx supergirl!
Her plan is to run it with EQ & primo. I know! I already told her to run it alone first to see how she reacts, but she wants to get as hard as possible for the first week in December. Can you give a recommendation on dose?
Thanks again
AngerOut

 

[supergirl]

a dose for halo... honestly, i would go as low as she can.. esp with the eq/primo stack!! she REALLY needs to watch for hair loss! The dht in primo can cause hair loss and halo will/can too!
But i would start her out at 2mgs ED.. see how she feels, she can always increase to 4mgs and then to 6mgs... but watch her body closely!! I would not exceed 6mgs a day!!! IMO the first sign of virlization, she needs to STOP!!! (the clit will probably swell up.. this is often times temporary and will return to normal post cycle, however if it is getting too big, then she should consider cutting back) Mine has always returned to normal.. no growth here.. BUT androgens like halo WILL cause growth!! just a lil tip lol...

good luck and godspeed don't say i did not warn you!!! Halo is some serious shit my friend!!! Tread lightly!!!

luv super

 

[MasRogue]

And keep sharp objects out of reach.
Being a guy, maybe it's different...but my personal nickname for Halo is Assholeabol.
Aside from Cheque drops it's the most aggresive causing AS I know of.

 

[AngerOut]

good news! SHe decided against it. After several people told her the same thing, she cut it after only 4 days. I think the hair loss thing was the kicker. Did I read your last post correctly, the dht in primo causes hair loss? I thought Primo was one of the milder ones for females, or were you just considering it mixed with the Stenox? Let me know b/c I get alot of questions about primo but usually don't have to dig real deep b/c its so hard to get.

 

[supergirl]

yup.. i said primo and i was referring to the dht which is one of the causes of male patterned baldness... it can and will cause mild hair loss... this side is NOT seen by all users, but some do experience it... taking primo alone or with other aas, it can cause hair loss in both men and women...
Right now, primo is like the golden grail.. what is out is most often fake.. shame really!

BUT i am VERY glad your girl decided against halo!! i think that is a wise decision.. she can get good results with her eq, primo and maybe toss in some Anavar (var) for extra hardness...

 

[AngerOut]

I am going to do some more investigating because my wife is seriously considering adding primo to her next cycle with anavar. Lets say that you can either mix primo or EQ with Anavar (var), which one would YOU choose and why? If you need more info on her...she has been seriously training for 4 years, competed for one year. SHe did two shows and did well but the common feedback from the judges was that she needs to put on some more muscle. She did one cycle of anavar. Ran 10mg for 8 weeks precontest with no sides.
Thanks for any advise/ opinions
AngerOut

 

[DrJMW]

I have seen success with low-dose DECA with my female clients (25mg IM weekly). I pretty much stick with oxandrolone and low-dose deca. Winstrol and halo are pretty harsh for women.

 

[supergirl]

I am going to do some more investigating because my wife is seriously considering adding primo to her next cycle with anavar. Lets say that you can either mix primo or EQ with var, which one would YOU choose and why? If you need more info on her...she has been seriously training for 4 years, competed for one year. SHe did two shows and did well but the common feedback from the judges was that she needs to put on some more muscle. She did one cycle of anavar. Ran 10mg for 8 weeks precontest with no sides.
Thanks for any advise/ opinions
AngerOut

well if gaining muscle is her goal, then neither are going to do the trick.. Low doses of deca will... primo and eq are more for leaning out and hardening up.. i mean i put on about 5lbs of muscle from primo, but that is not much as compared to other things to use for gains..
Also a key ingredient is her calories.. is she even eating enough to gain quality muscle?
But she can do a cycle of both primo and eq for some nice lean body mass.. basically she will turn her body into a lean mean machine some nice new muscle, but NOT bulk and not alot of gains.. like i said.. maybe 5-10 lbs.. but deca will put on size.. so decide where she wants to be and where her head is at..
1) lean muscular development?
2) size?