Need critique on Tren/Test Pp/Mast/Var !

BigSha

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Hello everyone ! This is my first post on your forum , but i was reading it with much interes over the past year . I am 26 , 81 kg , 171 sm . I've been training since i am 16 ( football , volleyball, waterpolo , fitnes) the past few years i was training mostly in the gym and mostly in the winter( i worked only in the summer ) . So I've run 3 cycles in the past : test e 500 mgs + dbol 25 mgs ; sust 250 / eq 200 / dbol 40 ; deca 440 / test c 250 .
In a few weeks i am starting the following :
1-4 proviron 20 mg Ed
1-4 dbol 40mg Ed
1-10 tren e 200 mg (pinning e2d all the rest )
1-10 tren a 100 mg ( it was supposed to be a TriTren blend but my lab didn't had it.
1-10 Mast P 200mg
1-15 Test Phenyl Propinate
11-15 Anavar 40 mg ed
Pct : 1 week after last pin 2x1000iu hcg
Clomid 100/50/50/50..?
Nolva 40/20/20/20 ...? Or more weeks
Tribulus at double daily dosage through all the pct .
Should I run Hcg during cycle like :
4-6 2x250iu (3 weeks )
10-12 2x250iu ( 3 weeks )

I am aroud 12-13% bf now . Is it too less test for my tren+mast? After this cycle i will be off for an year or may be more . where i am trying to go to study and work there are physical tests and almost for sure a drug control so i have to be clean at least an year after my last run . I see it good. I researched all the winter and this is what I find attractive . Next time will be primo :)
 
Welcome, BigSha,

1. Not sure what the purpose of Proviron is here. I would drop that.
2. 1050 mg of trenbolone? Am I reading that right? If so, outrageous.
3. Test prop for 15 weeks? What's the idea here? You'll plateau far sooner.
4. Anavar at 40 mg? You would feel baby aspirin before you got anything from that.
5. hCG on cycle. 1000 IU won't get metabolized fully and will increase intratesticular E2 that an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will not fix.
6. You need a real aromatase inhibitor. Don't count on masteron or proviron.

I'll be honest with you, BigSha. I am not sure how you managed to get through 3 cycles, but this is one of the biggest clusters I've seen in awhile. Quite an imagination but my friend, where did you get this plan from? It's quite bemusing.
 
My mistake, 300mg in total of tren weekly . I agree to disagree that this cycle is a cluster. And I found some guys using the same as a pre-contest .
 
Well, I understand. Most people's IQ's are in the gutter. So I would research the science more and listen to people less.

Best of luck to you.
 
I choose the test pp cause it is supposed to not bloat so much like the longer esters and is going to kick in earlier with the tren ace . I wanted to try the TriTren blend but they got only Enantate and Ace , so i will have to stick with what I have.
 
I choose the test pp cause it is supposed to not bloat so much like the longer esters and is going to kick in earlier with the tren ace . I wanted to try the TriTren blend but they got only Enantate and Ace , so i will have to stick with what I have.

Bloat from ester is nonsense. You are in control of bloat, not the ester. Come one, brother. Just because you have something doesn't mean you need to use it. Anyway, it's evident that you're not looking for any critique other than someone to give you approval. So I will just let other folks chime in.
 
Ya this is a cluster fuck cycle. If I were you I would just stick with tren, masteron and test. And get a real Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I don't really see the need to add a oral in it seems like just those three steroids would give a really good amount of size. Have you ever even ran tren before?
 
Dbol is not the best choice for a lean bulk but again i have to stick with what I have. I was thinking in the begining to use Anavar (var) for a kicker but i assume is not the optimal. Turinabol would be just perfect but my lab doesn't offer it . So the idea of paying again for the delivery and etc just for the Tbol is a waste of ***8364;***8364;***8364; for me . I never tried proviron , think to give it a try.i never had any bad side effect issues till now so i hope nothing occures on this run also.
 
And if i just replace the dbol with Anavar ? How does it taste then ? Know that dbol its just not the thing to stack with tren and mast .
 
I m at work and i can't concentrate . Austinite what do u mean that i will hit a plateau with test phenyl propionate for 15 weeks ? And how do u suggest to run the Hcg then ??? I never tried but everywhere i read people r running it 2x1500iu for a week or so .
 
The recommended hcg usage on this site is usually 250 iu's administered twice a week for the duration of your entire cycle. And stopped before post cycle therapy (pct). And with the testosterone you mentioned since it is fast acting you will reap all the benefits of it that it has to offer in the size department some where around week 10. And so those extra 5 weeks will not produce any noticeable gains. If it does it will just be small gains. Your androgen receptors are going to be use to the testosterone and down regulate or something to that degree.
 
So if i was using a long ester in the begining and a short one the last 2 weeks would it be better ?? About the Hcg , i have normally read that a person should run it for 3-4 weeks , than stop for a while and then again . I think i read on the this same web that some guy was running the same compounds as a pre contest to gain some new muscle and define it .
 
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