Need Help Dialing In TRT - T's Log

[twc1313]

I have been on TRT for five years now and have adjusted my dosages a bit, for the most part mood and energy are great and gains at the gym are as well. However, libido and erections are great or nothing at all. Even viagra/cialis won't work some times, other times it works great. What do you suggest based on these two different protocols I've run?

Additional info: took propecia for a few months back in 2002


Protocol 1

Test Cyp – 100mg e5d
HCG - 333iu M, W, F

Labs drawn day after T-Cyp injection


Test Total - 1325 (348-1197)

Free T - 37.8 (8.7-25.1)

e2 Sensitive 28

total estrogens 173 men's range (40-115) high




Protocol 2

Test Cyp IM 20mg tues/ 20mg fri
hcg 250iu 3x/week

Labs drawn day after T shot


Total Test 1100 (250-1100)
Test Free 218 HIGH (35-155)

Estradiol 31 (<29 pg/ml)

Estradiol Free 0.73 HIGH (<0.45 PG/ML)

Estrone 54 (<68 pg/ml)

DHT 49 (16-79 NG/DL)

 

[AverageMan]

I have been on TRT for five years now and have adjusted my dosages a bit, for the most part mood and energy are great and gains at the gym are as well. However, libido and erections are great or nothing at all. Even viagra/cialis won't work some times, other times it works great. What do you suggest based on these two different protocols I've run?

Additional info: took propecia for a few months back in 2002


Protocol 1

Test Cyp ***8211; 100mg e5d
HCG - 333iu M, W, F

Labs drawn day after T-Cyp injection


Test Total - 1325 (348-1197)

Free T - 37.8 (8.7-25.1)

e2 Sensitive 28

total estrogens 173 men's range (40-115) high




Protocol 2

Test Cyp IM 20mg tues/ 20mg fri
hcg 250iu 3x/week

Labs drawn day after T shot


Total Test 1100 (250-1100)
Test Free 218 HIGH (35-155)

Estradiol 31 (<29 pg/ml)

Estradiol Free 0.73 HIGH (<0.45 PG/ML)

Estrone 54 (<68 pg/ml)

DHT 49 (16-79 NG/DL)

Need more info - age, height, weight, body fat %

I see E2 is high in both tests. Are you taking an AI?

 

[twc1313]

Need more info - age, height, weight, body fat %

I see E2 is high in both tests. Are you taking an AI?

34 years old, 6'3", 200lbs, body fat probably around 16-18% (based on pictures)

I have never really used an A.I. regularly, but have both adex and aromasin. I have noticed lately that I get weepy at almost everything, I freakin got all teary at Star Wars....Jesus.

 

[twc1313]

UPDATE:

Going to 50mg Test Cyp Im on Sunday and Thursday
No HCG (as to keep things simple for now)
No AI

Will do labs in 4 weeks.

 

[Old Duffer]

UPDATE:

Going to 50mg Test Cyp Im on Sunday and Thursday
No HCG (as to keep things simple for now) ..... because I like the nutless look?
No AI. ...... because I'm sure that doing the same thing over and over will eventually get a different result?

Will do labs in 4 weeks.

Im a total nub to this and even I can see: your girly hormones are high, your symptoms indicate it, you say you have AI available, but you still won't take any? It's a frigging pill! Take the pill! Lol!

 

[cybrsage]

I freakin got all teary at Star Wars....Jesus.

If you did not cry or become enraged at the bridge scene (not giving away any spoilers - but you know where I mean), then you are not human.

 

[IMT staff]

I see E2 is high in both tests. Are you taking an AI?

Those E numbers are pretty good actually, not high at all.