Need help for my 1st cycle: test e/ letrozole/ hcg/ clomid

[Frank 10 000]

I’m soon starting my 1st cycle of test e only in a few months. I’m 26 years old, 84kg and have been lifting naturally for about 6-7 years. Bf is about 10-15% (I’m not sure really). My goal is just to gain more strength, size and shred a bit of fat.
The cycle is as follows:
Test e (500mg/wk) / week 1-10
Letrozole (liquid version) / week 1-15
Clomid (150/100/50/50 – 4 weeks) /week 13-17
Hcg begins 10 days after last pin (1,000iu ed for 10 days straight):

>A friend of mine recommended the mentioned hcg dose and time, and after some extensive research I’m beginning to think this dude is friggen retarded. I’m still unsure though

I need advice on the following:

1.What would be the ideal Letrozole dose for 500mg of test e per week split into two shots of 250mg Monday and Thursday?

2.What is the ideal dose and timing for hcg for this cycle?

3.What are your thoughts on this cycle? Is it a good 1st cycle for someone of my age?



Btw I’m new to this stuff (steroids) and this is my 1st cycle. I’m not that well informed with some of this stuff (steroids) so please don’t judge and just bear with me.


Shoot

 

[China_Wall]

do not run letro... get aromasin or arimidex... letro has NO place in bodybuilding, none

 

[Frank 10 000]

Why shouldn't I use letrozole? I know it is very potent but with the right dose, it's effective....but I don't know the right dose to use for this letrozole: 1ml=5mg
HELP!

 

[China_Wall]

it is not effective, it destroys estrogen... stick with the safer options that work, arimidex or aromasin... sorry, I'm not gonna help you with what you're asking as I just don't agree with the use of that compound

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Why shouldn't I use letrozole? I know it is very potent but with the right dose, it's effective....but I don't know the right dose to use for this letrozole: 1ml=5mg
HELP!

China is right, letro is extremely potent. If its measured as 5mg/ml, I'm gonna go ahead and say its gonna be near impossible to measure out an effective dose without crashing your e2. As little as 100mcg (1/10th of a mg, or 1/50th of a ml in your case) can destroy 97% of estro. Its just too damn strong man. Chuck it out and grab some aromasin or adex... Will makes things a lot easier. Crashing your e2 is not fun.

 

[tbonexl]

Go read the beginner cycle stickys

 

[3J]

i definitely would stay away from letro.. price gave you great advice

 

[Teutonic]

btw........................

WELCOME....letro is the nuclear option to eradicate estrogen ..not just manage or lower...remember estro is so darn important. Upon augmenting test your body will seek homeostasis and convert them extra testo s into estro s but letro will REMOVE an integral part of homeostasis and that is NOT WHERE YOU want to be...jacked up, with maybe achey joints, probably depressed..at least moody w a limp pecker to boot.......savvy ?

 

[Frank 10 000]

Ok. I ditched letro and getting aromasin on the way But what about the hcg? What are your views on it?

 

[3J]

running it at 500iu a week on cycle will make pct a piece of cake

 

[Frank 10 000]

What do you mean "will make pct a piece of cake"? What will happen if I don't run hcg 500ui per week on cycle?

 

[jamrock_souljah]

What do you mean "will make pct a piece of cake"? What will happen if I don't run hcg 500ui per week on cycle?

when you run hcg on cycle it helps to keep your nuts working such as producing test compared to not taking it which which they shrink and shut down. so by running hcg through out it gives a better chance for recovery during pct with the proper serms and dosages.

 

[LiquidSmoke21]

I would do 12 weeks of test not 10

 

[juced_porkchop]

do not run letro... get aromasin or arimidex... letro has NO place in bodybuilding, none

not true I use it as my main AI on cycle without issues. you dose it low and it works well! for years now...
but since OP is new I would rec Dex 0.25-0.5mg eod for AI since he might not know how ot dose well and its first cycle.

 

[3J]

not true I use it as my main AI on cycle without issues. you dose it low and it works well! for years now...
but since OP is new I would rec Dex 0.25-0.5mg eod for AI since he might not know how ot dose well and its first cycle.

jp its a very powerful ai.. and you have alot of experience with it.. its not for beginners as you have stated.. i personally used it once and crashed my estro years ago.. havn't touched it since..

some n00b will use it.. have his dick stop working and freak out.. and we'll get the "HELP ME PLEASE" threads popping up.. lol

 

[juced_porkchop]

I would do 12 weeks of test not 10

agreed, id rec 12-14wks IMO and a clomid/tamox PCT for 4 weeks

 

[Mr.Green]

HCG@250iu's twice/wk with your cycle
- will help your recovery during P.C.T