Need help with Gear.

dansguns

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Cananyone tell me anything about these,1. Oxandrolone 5.0mg (TTOKKYO)
2. Oxyboone(Genpharm SA) 50mg
3. Stan Qv 100 (Quality Vet) 100mg
4. Primobolan Depot (Schering) 100mg
5. Proviron (Schering) 25mg
6. Deca (Organon pre pack)
7. Sustonon 250 (Orgonon amps and pre pack)

I need to know which are good and which can be taken together for good results. I know this is alot to ask but I respect all of your opionions. I have a good supply of all these and only looking for about 10-15lbs.
 
honestly how the hell u gonan put somethin in ur body that u dont even knoiw what it is ?u shouldnt even be lookin at gear right now !these are very basic things that if u hit th searh button u will find theb awnsers.serioudsly do ur self a favour and look into thsi alot more .
 
big N is right.

Anyway all you could need at the moment is susta and win. Keep it simple and short. IMO.
Clomid post cycle.
 
Batman said:
big N is right.

Anyway all you could need at the moment is susta and win. Keep it simple and short. IMO.
Clomid post cycle.

I wound not recomend Sustanon (sust). Try something like Cyp, or Enan for test.

But you need to do a lot of research. You should know what the basic gear is and does. Research for a few days and you will be able to answer your own gestions. And have a better understanding of what things do, then if someone just tells you.

Peole just giving you all the awswers is kind of like cheating on a test, you may get a A but you dont know shit!!!

Check out. http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=42

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/
 
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Honestly, you need to do more research and educate yourself on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) before putting anyhthing into your body. Another thing if you are not experienced in doing any Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) that is way too much for a first cycle. You really need to concentrate on getting your diet & training habits first then you can start to see what might work for you, but that's where you need to educate yourself. We can recommend what to use but everyone is different and that comes with experience which you need slowly gain on your own, don't do a cycle like that if you have no previous experience using AAS. I would recommend using just Test@400mgs. a week for 8-10 weeks and see how your body responds, then you can learn more about the other types of AAS. Good Luck Bro!
 
clee said:
I wound not recomend Sustanon (sust). Try something like Cyp, or Enan for test.

But you need to do a lot of research. You should know what the basic gear is and does. Research for a few days and you will be able to answer your own gestions. And have a better understanding of what things do, then if someone just tells you.

Peole just giving you all the awswers is kind of like cheating on a test, you may get a A but you dont know shit!!!

Check out. http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=42

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/

Well, susta was the only test in his list; but, just for my curiosity,why would you prefer cypionate or enanthate, bro?
 
Batman said:
Well, susta was the only test in his list; but, just for my curiosity,why would you prefer cypionate or enanthate, bro?

Because Sustanon (sust) has 4 diff esters. And to get the max. test you have to inject ed, or eod. If you only inject once a week your not getting shit from the prop, or the phenylpropionate so that’s 90mgs gone. So your Sustanon (sust) 250 is now Sustanon (sust) 160. And its very hard to keep your blood levels consistent with Sustanon (sust), especially when he is new to the game, with Cyp or Enan he could inject once a week, and I personally think its better than Sustanon (sust), and its cheaper. I dont like sust.
 
Batman said:
Susta is a blend of 4 different testosterone between propionate and decanoate.

No shit. SUST....but its still very hard to keep levels consistant, and get the most out of your test unless you inject ed, or eod.
 
clee said:
No shit. SUST....but its still very hard to keep levels consistant, and get the most out of your test unless you inject ed, or eod.

I have to strongly disagree with you about shooting ED or EOD. Sustanon (sust) was designed for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) shots and to be given every 2 or 3 weeks. If it gave one uneven blood levels, it never would have been approved for that purpose.

You guys seems to forget that all Sustanon (sust) esters release the same drug - , testosterone, into the bloodstream.

Also, all test esters start releasing test immediately...

The following is a post by Andy13 about this:

Andy13:

The model of sustanon compared to esters of various other half lives shows that sustanon is much, much, more like a single ester testosterone than you might think. I too believed that blood levels would be more difficult to control, compared to TE for instance.. until I plotted this..

I think there is A LOT of misconception about sustanon. There is an infamous thread that has been claimed by more different authors than I can count. I'm not talking about paraphrasing either. This gets cut-n-pasted, word for fucking word, and the sad part is that is it ridiculously erroneous and misleading. It's pretty much entirely shyte except for the few instances where universal, 'impossible-to-fuck-up no-matter-what' type of 'good' information such as "inject more frequently" is given.. But even then, it is buried in so much illogical garbage that the principles are skewed. I hate this post.

This is a huge reason why many BBers do not understand the concept of the ester. I'm not talking about knowing "longer ester= longer half life, shorter ester= faster acting. Knowledge of (only) this trivial information is dangerous. I remember when I first learned about esters and had only this understanding.. I thought I knew everything there was to know. It turns out that this isn't even the half of it.

Back to my rant about this infamous sustanon post, the author clearly does not understand how esters work. The common misconception that I (and probably many others) had once is that in sustanon, the prop releases first, and then the phenyl prop, followed by the longer esters (but later). After all, the longer esters don't kick in until week 3 or so, right? Nothing say's "I have no fucking clue about esters" quite like the latter statement..

This fundamental lack of understanding is something I feel is important, and I have made it my life-long goal to take the time and try and explain this (100's of times) to those who have been misinformed. A good many of them don't give a shit. They want the bottom line, after all, who gives a shit about esters during their 10-month winter hiatus from the gym? I can certainly appreciate that... Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) mentoring isn't for everyone and everyone shouldn't do it.. The problem is that it is usually these dudes (who care only to know where to stick the pin) that are the first one's to regurgitate the shit they heard yesterday, thus doing their part to perpetuate the cycle of ignorance…

Next time, I’ll tell you how I really feel about the idiots in this sport who litter the boards with filth and plagiarized garbage..

Andy
 
clee said:
Because Sustanon (sust) has 4 diff esters. And to get the max. test you have to inject ed, or eod. If you only inject once a week your not getting shit from the prop, or the phenylpropionate so that’s 90mgs gone. So your Sustanon (sust) 250 is now Sustanon (sust) 160. And its very hard to keep your blood levels consistent with Sustanon (sust), especially when he is new to the game, with Cyp or Enan he could inject once a week, and I personally think its better than Sustanon (sust), and its cheaper. I dont like Sustanon (sust).

I agree on one main thing: you have to inject more often (3 per week is ok for me). But I like the good start you have with propionate.
By the way: I'm not saying cypio or enanth are bad choices; I would rather say that susta is good for starting as a frontload and then could be nice carrying on with a longer ester like "yours".
 
Stone is right: in some guys susta has a reputation that's the consequence of some misunderstandings.
 
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