Need liquid diet help

Jaybee

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hey everyone, I'm new to these forums, one of my friends recommended me here. I hope someone can help me out.

Yesterday I got my tonsills removed and I am forced to eat only smooth foods. I can't have steak, bread, or really anything else that might cause me to inflame the back of my throat. I'm not supposed to have anything with milk in it because that might cause phlegm to buildup in the back of my throat and then I cough and I am rushed back to the ER to stop the massive bleeding.

So basically I need some help to formulate some diet for me because I am going away in 3 weeks for vacation and I still want to look good and not become incredibly skinny from not eating.

Right now I'm 5'11, and 145 lbs. Yeah, I know I'm kinda skinny, I workout everyday but I don't seem to gain much muscle or weight, but I think that's a different day, once I'm fully healed I'll try a new diet to gain more weight.

Thanks a lot

edit: i forgot to mention that for the past day I have been eating only jell-o, ices, and scrambled eggs. just so you guys understand what types of food i have been able to eat. the doctor said i should stick with mushy food thats easier to swallow
 
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the only thing i could recommend would be non-dairy protein powders like egg white protein, or gemma protein. you could also use fatty oils like olive oil, as well as carb powders. protein and EFAs should be your main focus.

whatever you do is not going to make a huge difference on how you look for your vacation. youre not going to get super jacked with a great diet, and youre not going to lose 100 pounds with a shitty diet. just eat whatever youre able to.
 
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Right now I'm 5'11, and 145 lbs. Yeah, I know I'm kinda skinny, I workout everyday but I don't seem to gain much muscle or weight, but I think that's a different day, once I'm fully healed I'll try a new diet to gain more weight.

Right there is your problem
 
Suareezay, thanks, thats pretty reassuring. tomorrow I'm going to pickup those proteins and see how it tastes. today i tried a banana and pine apple smoothie with some whey protein. pine apple wasnt the best choice, the acidic juice in it irritated my throat.

Double3, when I said I workout everyday, I didn't mean everyday. I workout M W F, and Sat, Sun, T and Th are off days which normally consist of a lot of cardio and then also focusing on abs.

Is there a problem with that?
 
Suareezay, thanks, thats pretty reassuring. tomorrow I'm going to pickup those proteins and see how it tastes. today i tried a banana and pine apple smoothie with some whey protein. pine apple wasnt the best choice, the acidic juice in it irritated my throat.

Double3, when I said I workout everyday, I didn't mean everyday. I workout M W F, and Sat, Sun, T and Th are off days which normally consist of a lot of cardio and then also focusing on abs.

Is there a problem with that?

Yes. Skip the cardio or cut it back dramatically if you are trying to gain weight. Don't do abs seperately, do them like you would any other muscle group. Skinny guys who can't gain weight would be better off only lifting three days a week at most.
 
Double3, when I said I workout everyday, I didn't mean everyday. I workout M W F, and Sat, Sun, T and Th are off days which normally consist of a lot of cardio and then also focusing on abs.

Is there a problem with that?

I thought you were talking about lifting everyday.

What kind of cardio are you doing? You don't want to be doing any high intensity like running. A brisk walk for 35 min is what you want to do. That will help with recovery wthout hindering your muscle gains.

Also are you squating and DLing? If not then start.
 
Suareezay, thanks, thats pretty reassuring. tomorrow I'm going to pickup those proteins and see how it tastes. today i tried a banana and pine apple smoothie with some whey protein. pine apple wasnt the best choice, the acidic juice in it irritated my throat.

Double3, when I said I workout everyday, I didn't mean everyday. I workout M W F, and Sat, Sun, T and Th are off days which normally consist of a lot of cardio and then also focusing on abs.

if you have they whey, thats fine, but you mentioned not being able to have anything with milk, so i took that mean all dairy (whey is dairy-derived).

i would also guess that at 145 lbs, and gaining weight being an issue, that your recovery ability isnt the greatest, so cutting back training to 3 days a week would be a smart move. When you heal, focus on eating more food to gain weight. Also look into a solid training split.
 
Behemoth,

Thanks, how often should I hit the abs?

Double3,

It isn't crazy running, it's like inclined walking for about 20 minutes. I can really get my heart pumping from that. Sometimes I do the elipitical for like 15 minutes too. Is there any strategy to not get bored while doing cardio, I think that is a really big problem I have. I seem to get bored real fast that I just want to stop running/walking or whatever.

Suareezay,

Yeah, I don't think my recovery ability is to great. I seem to get fatigued pretty fast and I'm not able to push my self past my limits. It makes sense that I probably should be be doing less weight and focusing on building up my stamina but I kinda just figured that would come in time.

Since I'm really trying to gain weight to eventually turn into muscle (i'm pretty sure thats how it works) does it matter what I eat? My friends normally just tell me to eat everything in site, but should I be focusing on certain food groups?

Also, sorry, I guess I'm kinda a rookie, whats a training split?
 
Yeah, I don't think my recovery ability is to great. I seem to get fatigued pretty fast and I'm not able to push my self past my limits. It makes sense that I probably should be be doing less weight and focusing on building up my stamina but I kinda just figured that would come in time.

Since I'm really trying to gain weight to eventually turn into muscle (i'm pretty sure thats how it works) does it matter what I eat? My friends normally just tell me to eat everything in site, but should I be focusing on certain food groups?

Also, sorry, I guess I'm kinda a rookie, whats a training split?

"Recovery" generally refers to the ability of ones body to repair itself from damage inflicted through exercise, which generally takes days. Becoming fatigued between sets is another issue altogether. People who are naturally leaner and more muscular tend to have better recovery ability, while thinner guys like you and I tend to have poorer recovery abilities. The best ways to overcome a less than optimal recovery ability is to train correctly (which for most means lower volume than they are accustomed to), adequate rest, and drugs - if you want to go that route.

I recommend this read a lot, but its really a good read for getting acquainted with training splits (a split is basically an exercise routine, and specifies which days you lift, what exercises you do, how many sets and reps, etc)
http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/trainingphilosophy.html

As for diet, eating everything in sight is a sure way to get fat. Generally every skinny guy ive ever come across has used this approach in their quest to get big and strong, and they end up failing miserably, including myself. They end up grossly overeating for months on end, gaining weight at an alarming rate (I was gaining 3-4 pounds a week during my bulk-gone-wrong period) which is predominantly fat. Then they realize "fuck im fat" and decide to diet it all off, only to lose the small amount of muscle and strength they had gained in the fatfuckifying process, ending up in the same place they began originally.

Anybody with half a clue will tell you that, when it comes to drug-free training, slow and steady wins the race. Gaining weight/muscle requires an excess of calories, but your body can only synthesize new muscle tissue so fast. If you eat more calories than are being utilized by your body for normal body functions, repair and growth, etc., those extra calories will be stored as fat. This is pure speculation on my part, but seeing as your 145 lbs and having trouble gaining weight, my guess would be that the amount of food that is actually required to gain weight is far greater than the amount that you personally would expect. Most people that are new to dieting/training are overwhelmed by the amount of food it takes to consistently gain actual muscle tissue.

Here are some good articles relating to diet:
protein requirements: http://www.elitefts.com/documents/protein_requirements.htm
carb requirements:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/Articles/howmanycarbs.html
phases of recomp:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/Articles/phasesrecomp.html
basics:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/Trainingarticles/secrets.html
 
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