Need opinions on my 3rd cycle

Hildiman

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OK Guys, I'm planning on doing a cycle end of July. 750 test e and 400mg Tren. Will be running HCG through the cycle.
My first 2 cycles were dissapointing. Not much results, but that was because my diet wasn't in check and I believe I may have crashed estrogen being paranoid about Gyno.
I've recently hired an on line coach, diet/training/steroid expert. He's gotten me on a calorie deficient diet. High Protein. My body fat was 17%. I've lost 10lbs now in the 2 weeks I've been following his diet.

He has recommended I do a cycle 16 weeks Test e and Tren. I have all my gear and PCT allready.
One thing I'm very confused about is, my online coach recommends I take 40mg of Nolvadex a week to keep estrogen at bay. I have arimidex on hand in case i need it.
I asked someone else about this and he told me you never, never, never take Nolvadex with a 19 nor. He told me I'm going to seriously fuck myself up.
I really need some opinions here. Should I disregard what my coach has advised and use an AI and Prami through the cycle?
 
I'll let the more knowledgable types talk to to the Nolva question but had some added commentary. Take it for what it's worth.

Don't take this the wrong way, but 10lbs in 2 weeks -- probably half is water due to adjusting your diet and perhaps lowering sodium. Conventional wisdom says 2lbs/week of fat loss is doable for a grown man. Seeing your AVI and given you're at 17%, I wouldn't try and lose fat more rapidly.

I'd also cut naturally and then save the test & tren cycle to build lean mass, afterwards. You could be a beast that way ;)

Just my 2 cents. No hate ;) Good luck either way.
 
Thanks bro, actually I have another month of dieting before I begin the cycle. My coach says I should start showing abs before using gear. Get the body fat real low and build muscle from there
 
Sounds like he knows what he's talking about.. Good luck man that cycle is very close to the one I am currently on and I am loving it
 
OK Guys, I'm planning on doing a cycle end of July. 750 test e and 400mg Tren. Will be running HCG through the cycle.
My first 2 cycles were dissapointing. Not much results, but that was because my diet wasn't in check and I believe I may have crashed estrogen being paranoid about Gyno.
I've recently hired an on line coach, diet/training/steroid expert. He's gotten me on a calorie deficient diet. High Protein. My body fat was 17%. I've lost 10lbs now in the 2 weeks I've been following his diet.

He has recommended I do a cycle 16 weeks Test e and Tren. I have all my gear and PCT allready.
One thing I'm very confused about is, my online coach recommends I take 40mg of Nolvadex a week to keep estrogen at bay. I have arimidex on hand in case i need it.
I asked someone else about this and he told me you never, never, never take Nolvadex with a 19 nor. He told me I'm going to seriously fuck myself up.
I really need some opinions here. Should I disregard what my coach has advised and use an AI and Prami through the cycle?

There are better serms out there today. I dont like Adex or letro for on cycle use also... Aromasin is much better for on cycle IMO
 
I think this is the third guy (on this board and in the last little while) that says he has hired a "coach" who has gone on to give bad advice. Not saying I am an expert or trying to hate on the OP just an observation.

There are better serms out there today. I dont like Adex or letro for on cycle use also... Aromasin is much better for on cycle IMO

Not trying to hi-jack either but would love to hear why you prefer Aromasin over Adex
 
Look It seems you coach has helped you in some ways - that is good. The issue is the cycle advice IMO is a bit outdated. The reason for that is not the nolva/19 overblown BS, it is the simple fact that the most prudent thing you can do on cycle is manage your estrogen levels with an ai. I like stane best, my second choice is adex.
Also given the fact that diet or whatever robbed you your first 2 cycles i would consider taking a step back, doing a proper first cycle (which would not include tren) and have your diet and training on point when you run it and establish that foundation experience of what test only, a proper diet training and rest can do for you.
Also the advice may have echoed re 3J is not bad advice at all. The man knows all aspects of this game. To say it would be at least worth an inquiry email is an understatement.
 
Thanks. I've already got all the gear, but you think I should just sit on the Tren and save it for another cycle? Will consider doing that.

First cycle was dbol and test e 500mg for 10 weeks.
second cycle was Deca and Sustanon. 750 for the sust and 400mg for the Deca.

I realize now how important it is to have your diet in check. I ran Stane on my last two cycles, so I'm wondering if I crashed E to much and that was also contributing to my dissapointing results.
I stuck with the recommended dosage with the stane (12.5mg ED).

Someone asked for stats. I'm 45 years old, 196 lbs. Was 207 a couple weeks ago. 6ft 1", 17%body fat. Have been working out for a good 10 years and when natural gains came to a stop, I decided to use gear.

Hildiman
 
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