Need Steroid cycle advice guys!!!

[Rayyder]

Hey guys,

I am trying to get together a good steroid cycle to bulk up lean. I am a very lean guy anyway, 6'1 and 170 lbs with about 7% bf. I eat very clean and I eat about 4000 cals a day. I just need everyones advice on what I need to take to get to around 210 lbs. I am not a 'newbie' so dish out what is real to me so I can make a educated decision!

 

[MeatHead96]

Welcome to ology. How much weight you gain is all about diet. AAS can help you reach that goal faster, but keep in mind that you need to have a surplus of calories to grow. And the more you grow, the more calories you begin to need to grow. What is your cycle history? If this is your first cycle you should use test only. Read the stickies. It is possible to gain 40 lbs on a first cycle but if you do a ton of it will be water weight and fat. Keep this in mind. I gained 35 lbs on my first cycle and then had to cut 20 lbs just to get back to the same body fat that I was.

 

[Rayyder]

Both of my cycles have been with test and deca. The first cycle I used anadrol orally. And the second cycle I just did the test 400mg and deca. Took 500/400 the first time and 800/600 the second.

 

[MeatHead96]

Both of my cycles have been with test and deca. The first cycle I used anadrol orally. And the second cycle I just did the test 400mg and deca. Took 500/400 the first time and 800/600 the second.

At 6'1" and 170 lbs after two cycles it sounds to me like you may need to be focusing more on your diet. Trying to gain 40 lbs without this in check isn't going to happen. I know you are extremely lean and you probably have a good base to work with but if you really want to gain that much weight, especially in a short time, you will have to leave your six pack behind for the time being. Focus on bulking up big and worry about cutting down again later.

 

[Rayyder]

Well I started at 127. So I thought im doin good.... I eat and eat and try and gain as much aa possible but I only gain lean...

 

[MeatHead96]

Well I started at 127. So I thought im doin good.... I eat and eat and try and gain as much aa possible but I only gain lean...

I started at 135 and got to 190 lbs before I cycled and i'm 5'9". I'm guessing you still have a lot of natty growth left in ya.

 

[frazier512]

i see u posted a couple of your stats, whats your age and workout?

 

[thebigredguy]

Welcome to ology. How much weight you gain is all about diet. AAS can help you reach that goal faster, but keep in mind that you need to have a surplus of calories to grow. And the more you grow, the more calories you begin to need to grow. What is your cycle history? If this is your first cycle you should use test only. Read the stickies. It is possible to gain 40 lbs on a first cycle but if you do a ton of it will be water weight and fat. Keep this in mind. I gained 35 lbs on my first cycle and then had to cut 20 lbs just to get back to the same body fat that I was.

That is great gains! How long did you run your test cycle for? How do you think your results would have differed if you ran exemestane throughout your cycle? I am wanting to run a 12 week cycle of test e at 500 mg week. Just trying to learn everything I can, but want to cycle in order to gain lean mass which is why I have been considering running Clen/T3 or ECA along with Aromasin during my cycle.. input?

 

[thebigredguy]

Rayyder- If you liked running orals you could try Ana Anavar (var) /Primo cycle or run Primo Depot inject. I have read of this being a 7 week cycle with the Anavar (var) at 20mg ED and Primo 200mg per week. This is a good stack and will keep you lean because there is no estrogen and only moderately androgenic.

 

[thebigredguy]

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[bigherm2121]

Rayyder- If you liked running orals you could try Ana Anavar (var) /Primo cycle or run Primo Depot inject. I have read of this being a 7 week cycle with the Anavar (var) at 20mg ED and Primo 200mg per week. This is a good stack and will keep you lean because there is no estrogen and only moderately androgenic.

Wow r u kidding?

 

[balboa270]

Rayyder- If you liked running orals you could try Ana Anavar (var) /Primo cycle or run Primo Depot inject. I have read of this being a 7 week cycle with the Anavar (var) at 20mg ED and Primo 200mg per week. This is a good stack and will keep you lean because there is no estrogen and only moderately androgenic.

WTF

 

[a68rebel]

Rayyder- If you liked running orals you could try Ana Anavar (var) /Primo cycle or run Primo Depot inject. I have read of this being a 7 week cycle with the Anavar (var) at 20mg ED and Primo 200mg per week. This is a good stack and will keep you lean because there is no estrogen and only moderately androgenic.

You f*cking TOOL. What the hell are you talking about? Please don't give cycling advise if you are mentally retarded. You are messing with someones health here dumbass! I hope you were joking with your advice?

 

[ababil]

just curious Rayyder, what anti-estrogens where u on?

 

[thebigredguy]

That is a cycle I got from this book I am reading. The author has a bunch of good information on AAS. I am Not sure why that is such a terrible cycle? But if that is bullshit information I hope I am not just getting a load of it by reading this book. I will cite my sources for you guys and let me know when I can take my flame suit off.

 

[bigherm2121]

Lol bro one thing I have learned that books are a lot of bullshit. I will take personal experience advice before anything in a book unless its a proven study by a md. Read on here not a stupid book.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

At 6'1" and 170 lbs after two cycles it sounds to me like you may need to be focusing more on your diet. Trying to gain 40 lbs without this in check isn't going to happen. I know you are extremely lean and you probably have a good base to work with but if you really want to gain that much weight, especially in a short time, you will have to leave your six pack behind for the time being. Focus on bulking up big and worry about cutting down again later.

The best part about this post by Meat is how he tells you to leave your sixpack behind.

It is very difficult to gain weight and cut. The human body WILL not bulk and cut at the same time. It's not how it works.

Mass up, stabilize your new weight, then cut like 2 months later. I wouldn't even think about AAS until your over 200lbs @ your height.

Your not eating enough. Really your not. If your eating as much as you can, eat more. You can do this!

 

[bigherm2121]

With all that bs you wrote a simple test e or c only at 500 a week 250 twice a week you do that for twelve weeks with a spot on diet a good workout plan, an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), a good pct, and you can gain 20lbs of lean muscle and promote a lot of fat loss. No mixing different chemicals all that does is confuse you if you if you get sides. So that guy in the book might be talking about cycles. Not new comers. New guys need to find out what chemicals there body will take. Trust me some people have read bad sides with different chemicals. Test bases are a must in all cycles. Unless you like your Dick not working and you feelling like shit

 

[blackking_18]

hey guys, this is my very first time on this site and am looking for advise. I saw the post need steroid advise and thought this would be a good place to look.

I am 24 5'11 210lbs and have never done gear before in my life. i first started working out back in high school at 13 and have been on and off ever since. i think my diet is good. i eat 6 times a day and get on average 300 grams of protien and 5000 calories per day for about 12 months now. I am looking to take my body to the next level so if anybody can give me advise on what gear to start i would much appreciate it.

 

[balboa270]

hey guys, this is my very first time on this site and am looking for advise. I saw the post need steroid advise and thought this would be a good place to look.

I am 24 5'11 210lbs and have never done gear before in my life. i first started working out back in high school at 13 and have been on and off ever since. i think my diet is good. i eat 6 times a day and get on average 300 grams of protien and 5000 calories per day for about 12 months now. I am looking to take my body to the next level so if anybody can give me advise on what gear to start i would much appreciate it.

Hey bud start a new thread and you will get help with your questions cool